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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How is it that S1 owners can ask between 5 and 8k for a S1
AND S2 owners are out of their minds if they ask anywhere near that!!!

just doesn't make sense!!

JT
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Ducxl
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Uhh,what's the difference between the two? One of my Buells' is an X1. I know i could get flamed but,i just can't recall the differences.Hmmm,S3+S3T i'm aware of.
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

S2: STOCK SPORTY MOTOR
S1: THUNDERHEADS/LIGHTER FLYWHEELS

I THINK THATS THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE..


JT
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Chasespeed
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JT, S1, LIGHTNING heads(t-sotrms are 99 adn up..)

There is also a cam difference if I am not mistaken...

S=plaitc work(obviously)...but to my knowledge, those are really the only differences, the frames and wheels, etc are the same..

Chase
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the frames and wheels, etc are the same..

I BELIEVE THE S2 HAS THE BETTER FRONT END..AND THE WHEELS ON THE S2 ARE MARCHISI...I THINK THE S1 HAS THE HD KNOCK OFFS

don't get me wrong i think they are both GREAT machines..but the price difference is insane!!

jt
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Mmmi_grad
Posted on Sunday, June 25, 2006 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If an S1 doesnt willie by surprise and almost throw you off. It might have a problem and for sure isnt up to dealer DEMO specs at the time they were new.

(Message edited by mmmi_grad on June 25, 2006)
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Easy_rider
Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Something about the S1 is a little sexier looking, more hp, but I still am looking forward to an S2T in my garage someday!
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Leftcoastal
Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm with ya on this, JT
The few S1's I've ridden were big fun, for a SHORT ride, then after a few more miles it kinda resembled rectal surgery, but without the anesthesia.
My RS with the S2 bodiwork and turbo is probably worth about as much, or maybe just slightly more, than what S2's are going for. (It has a LOT more HP than an S1, too!) I would like to sell it, as I rarely ride it, but am not up for losing 70% of what I have in it.
There's a PRISTINE '91 RS on craigslist right now for $6500 - IMHO it's worth 2X that.
AL
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I JUST HAD TO VENT!!!
IT MAKES NO SENSE WHAT SO EVER...A S2 WITH A LITTLE MOTOR WORK IS A MUCH BETTER ROAD BIKE THAN A S1...S1 MAY BE BETTER ON THE TRACK(HOW MANY REALLY TRACK THEM)..BUT FOR THE ROAD/TRAVEL..HANDS DOWN...S2 IS A BETTER ALL ROUND MACHINE!!!
@#$%&!

PS..S1W ARE SWEET...WORTH DOUBLE...NO WAY

JT
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Loki
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The S1 evokes the raw viceral(sp?) image of nasty fun.

The S2 speaks a different language. A slightly more sedate and relaxed life. Hike the S2s skirt up a notch and you can see what ya really have.


Emotional imagery drives the bus that we are but passengers on.
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Bartimus
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ChaseSpeed,
you are wrong, '98 and up have the lightning heads.

'96 S1's had the stock sportster motor
'97 S1's had the lightning heads
'98 had the thunderstorms

I have three S2's and one S1WL, and an XB9sx.
The S1 will smoke the S2's, except the one with the Nallin 1250 kit.
The S2's handling is better, but with the lighter flywheels and thunderstorm heads, the S1 just has more raw power, and makes you giggle like a little girl on prom night when you wack the throttle. ;)

(Message edited by Bartimus on June 27, 2006)
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The S1 evokes the raw viceral(sp?) image of nasty fun.

Hike the S2s skirt up a notch and you can see what ya really have.

PLEASE...IT'S ALL MENTAL MASTERBATION..YOU KEEP DREAMING ABOUT BEING "NASTY".. I'LL RIDE MY SKIRT WEARING S2 ALL DAY LONG..AND YOU CAN HAVE YOUR 30min OF FAME AND BEING NASTY.

JT
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bartimus,
having both...if you could only keep one of the tubers....which one would it be?

S1WL OR S2 WITH MOTOR WORK?..


JT
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Loki
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just can't win tonight.

My afore mentioned comments were, shall we say. Aimed at how the bikes were marketed and portrayed.

As for the skirt comment. Simply a metaphor. The S2 does wear a little more clothing than the S1.
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Loki
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JT,

If I had to choose between my '92(RS) or the '97(S1). I would have to have a chat with EFB first.
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 06:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

loki,
LMOA....All i'm saying is..S1 worth almost twice as much as a S2..NO WAY

PS..GREAT LOOKING S1 !!!


JT
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Loki
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 06:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

JT,

I agree. In my opinion the S2 should be the one fetching the higher dollar numbers.

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Loki
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 06:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ooops,

Thanks JT

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Tgroghan
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had the S2, it is like a Cadillac. The S1 I've ridden on and it was more like a hopped up Camaro.

Not sure many of the S1 cycles are actully getting $8k though.

Though think about it this way a 1995 motorcycle is going for approx $4-5K and then the 2005 XB12r is going for $6-7k. Very interesting never the less.
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Cyberfly
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok, Im new to this forum and to being an S2 owner,, but you can easily make 100 rear wheel hp out of the 1200 motor. I have owned 8 sporsters all 1200's and have had several that dyno'd at 125hp,,without sacrificing longevity..,,you dont have to have the throttle Wide Open all the time. With the gearing of the S2, a full race motor could easily go 25,000 miles without a problem.. Of course, that's just my opinion and I could be wrong (quote Dennis Miller)... ron
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


No Contest


NO CONTEST

Rocket
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WTF?


NO CONTEST


NO CONTEST

Rocket
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Kahuna
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AHEM!

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Buellzebub
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool, S1's still rule
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Really?

(sure wish I knew who took this pic so I could properly attribute it)
(either that or I'll have to go strip my bike down and take my own)
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Road_thing
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, there you have it in black and white...

rt
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Rocketman
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What's with all the scaffolding on that white bike?

Rocket
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm glad we can agree to disagree...


JT
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Kenm123t
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Its the difference of a Hot babe in long dress or a thong
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Suzypoozie
Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

jt wrote:
"I BELIEVE THE S2 HAS THE BETTER FRONT END..AND THE WHEELS ON THE S2 ARE ...I THINK THE S1 HAS THE HD KNOCK OFFS"

-->My S1 has Marchesini wheels. Also, it was knocked over the other day and the insurance agent said S1's blue book at $4K.
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"scaffolding" Good one!
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