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4traxx
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My bike fell & bent the bars . I got 2 bolts out , but they pulled the threads out with them . it looks like I may be able to use 1/2 inch longer bolts , but Even worse is 2 bolts are frozen in the triple . The allen heads are rounded over & keeps slippping out . Anybody have some tips ? i will be home again to try again .
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Skntpig
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Put the other bolts back in to reduce the torque on the stuck ones then try this:

http://mototuneusa.com/power_news_--_damaged_allen _bolt_removal.htm
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Gmaan03
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Done that a couple of times. Some times since they are SHCS you might need to drill out the heads.
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Jramsey
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Put the other bolts back in to reduce the torque on the stuck ones"
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Gmaan03
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

S-pray some WD-40 and let it soak over night. The Stainless steel and Aluminum galls after time. When you fix it be sure to use some anti seize on the threads to prevent this in the future.
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Prior
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 06:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To get the two bolts out where you boogered up the heads, grab the next larger size allen head (be it metric or standard) and gently tap it into the head of the bolt, after you've let it soak overnight with some penetrating oil. Should get a good tight fit in the head of the bolt this way.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Or use a Torx bit that is a bit bigger and tap it in--the sharp corners of the Torx work well.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on the torx bit.

WD40? Might as well use tap water. Spray with BG In-Force, or some REAL penetrant, and then let it sit overnight. WD does not penetrate worth crap, it's a surface lube. I only use that junk for adhesive removal if I'm peeling stickers off something, or to remove really stubborn bug guts. The BG stuff? I've sprayed it on suspension bolts on a 1972 Plymouth and let it sit overnight. A Craftsman 1/2" hand ratchet that's 12" long was all I needed to remove the leaf spring U-bolts the next day. THAT'S a penetrant.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rat BG stuff is great. If you can't find it, PB Blaster is also VERY good.
WD 40 is now only used for displacing water...... and fishing (actually works quite well as bait spray).
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Skntpig
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Put the other bolts back in to reduce the torque on the stuck ones"

I meant that sometimes if you only loosen one side...that he could have twisted the clamp up when getting them out if they were "making their own threads on the clamp", creating torque on the others.

That was probably the worst explanation, tough to put into words. Same reason you do a star pattern or cris-cross when tightening instead of a circle.
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4traxx
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Skntpig. I knew what you meant . I am going to probably drill the head off & try a stud remover .
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Onahog
Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lotsa the bolts used have a dab of blue locktight on em..You can heat the head of the bolt with a propane torch to soften the locktight on the threads...i have done this many times to get the bolts out of wheels that hold the rotors on or the side plates on an s2..Hb
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Desertguy
Posted on Monday, May 09, 2011 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is an old trick I learned from an old man. If you don't want to use heat, spray carburetor cleaner in there before you follow it up with penetrant. This acts as a "carrier" and draws the penetrant into the threads better. And don't forget to strike the center of the allen bolts with a drift pin or punch a few sharp blows, during and after the sprays.
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Desertguy
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

By the way...guess what WD-40 primarily consists of?

Fish oil!

True!
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2011 - 05:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

12 seconds with google:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/wd-40.asp

scroll to the bottom.
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Rodent
Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2011 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Crazy. For years I "knew" there was fish oil in wd-40.


What is real?
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