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Ap_sand
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm doing the "spring plate" upgrade in the clutch pack and have run into a problem. I "lent" my maintenance manual to another Bueller in need and haven't seen it in a while...

I get the diaphragm compressed but the inside snap ring is still tight between the pressure plate and inner spring seat and won't come loose! What am I missing?

Thanks in advance for the help.

Andrew
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Blake
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You have the clutch pack out or are trying to get it out?

The info you need is shown in the online version of the 1996/1997 Buell S1 Service Manual.
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Ap_sand
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Trying to get it out.

I've got the cover off, release mechanism off, spring compressor on and pack squeezed (well, not while I'm waiting...).
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just sounds like you haven't compressed the spring enough yet.Should be loose enough that the retaining ring can move around and the clip can be rotated out with a pair of needle nose pliers.
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Ap_sand
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sigh... Yeah, guess I'm just not cranking down the compressor enough. Out of paranoia of breaking things, I was squeezing just enough for the inner basket to start wobbling in the outer.

Thanks for the pointer to the service manual Blake and the point out of what should be the obvious Cyclonecharlie.

You guys rock!

Andrew
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Blake
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Careful, there are differnt retaining rings and a snap ring. The snap ring appears most visible, but it's the little retaining ring that needs to come off to remove the pack. Confused me the first time I did it too.
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Ap_sand
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The little external one? Not the big internal one?

Will my life really be easier if I take off the right parts?



Andrew
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

: ) I almost ripped that big internal one out by force before realizing the mistake.
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The smallest of the clips is a snap ring, that removes the whole clutch basket,takes snap ring pliers. Leave that alone. Outside of that is a combination retaining ring and clip. The retaining ring is a complete circle, the clip has ends.Tighten the compressor until the retaining ring gets loose, then take a pair of needle nose pliers and rotate the clip out.After the clip is out, release the pressure on the compressor and be careful not to pinch the retaining ring under the clutch fingers or tabs.
Take the compressor completely off and you have access to your plates, lay them off in order till you get to the spring plate (replace that with two steels and one fiber)
Make sure the spring plate is still in tack( has all the revits)if not you may have other problems to look for.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Snap" maybe confuse with "retaining". Which #?



Buell Clutch Parts Diagram
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Ap_sand
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I believe the one I was intending to remove is #9 in the diagram (P/N 37909-90).

Andrew
(feeling stupider and stupider by the post)
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Cyclonecharlie
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Poor choice of words on my part. Leave #12 alone, take out #9 with needle nose pliers, pull #10 away from pressure plate and remove compressor.
Thanks for the drawing Blake.
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Ap_sand
Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok, that's the one I'm chasing. I don't feel so stupid after all. I guess I just need to squeeze the diaphragm down more.

Thanks guys!

Andrew
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