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Chichiman
| Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 12:52 am: |
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how can i make sure my oil is circulatin properly?bike sat for a few days,now oil cap blows off,was fine prior to primary oil replacement.oil was added through chain inpection not oil bag under seat. |
Eshardball
| Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 09:43 am: |
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Adding oil through your primary has nothing to do with the engine oil. Pull the cap off the oil tank and start the bike. The oil should be above the bottom mark on the stick. You can watch the oil flowing back into the tank and the flow should increase substantially when you rev the motor up. Remember to check the oil after running the bike or you will over fill it and it will puke out of the cap. Some oil tends to drain back into the engine when it is off. |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 07:18 pm: |
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My oil cap blew off once, and it took me a minute to find it in the grass. Some oil splattered on me too. |
Buellistic
| Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 07:45 pm: |
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The loud oil cap "POP" is the sound of TOO much oil in the oil tank or the oil is cold ... The Sportster engine if over filled will puke the excess oil out some where ... ie: base gaskets will weep, if you still have the head breathers connected to the air cleaner back plate it will find it way there and onto your right leg or if you dump the head breathers into a catch container you will find the excess oil there ... CHECKING OIL 101: 1) After a good ride ... 2) On level ground ... 3) On the sidestand ... 4) Engine running ... 5) When you first pull the dip stick out, the oil level on the dip stick will be the air gap indicator(should be one(1) inch ... 6) Quickly wipe off and re-check oil level which should be one (1)inch from the first indication of air space ... |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 07:59 pm: |
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I came to the very same conclusions independently of your supposition. It sounds crazy... but let oil level get lower in a tuber oil bag and consumption goes down. |
Buellistic
| Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 08:16 pm: |
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Been posting this on BwB for years now ... How did you miss it ??? |
5liter
| Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 09:20 pm: |
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Never had an oil cap blow off in 40,000 miles. I keep it between the upper and lower marks on the dipstick while sitting on the side stand. This oil change it was a little over half way up the dipstick and no puke, no pop. |
Eshardball
| Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 09:58 pm: |
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If it is not over filled, it should not blow the cap out. The old oil pump design on the Ironheads used a check ball and spring to keep the oil in the tank from gravity feeding into the engine when it was off. Although the change in location of the check ball from the pump inlet to the filter mount is a little better it still needs improving. |
Chichiman
| Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 10:59 pm: |
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ok I know this problem has been posted a zillion times & I did not miss it.a week ago I changed my primary oil,and replaced starter motor gasket,i did not touch the oil bag,trans fluid was added to primary through chain inspec cover.bike ran fine a week ago no poping sound or seeping oil.am I to belive the seat was just keeping the cap from blowing off? |
Eshardball
| Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 07:06 am: |
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Very possible. I would think that the two are unrelated. Is your oil actually over full? The head breathers should keep you from building crankcase pressure. You never stated where the oil level was in the tank. My concern would be the cause for the pressure being generated if the oil tank was not over full. I had blown the dipstick out of my Road King on the Highway but a locking dipstick cured the issue. |
Kalali
| Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 12:28 pm: |
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" 1) After a good ride ... 2) On level ground ... 3) On the sidestand ... 4) Engine running ... " Does this procedure apply to ALL the Buells? The steps outlined in my '00 X1 manual say to keep the bike upright and do not say anything about keeping the engine running... Did I misunderstand the procedure or this is a "better" way of checking the oil level? Thanks. |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 01:17 pm: |
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I'm thinking most of the oil that drains from the oil bag into the sump is from back flow via the scavenging pump line. |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 01:23 pm: |
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"Been posting this on BwB for years now ... How did you miss it ???" Who says I missed anything? I was offering independent verification of your findings on this specific subject. You say other things I don't agree with at all. |
Buellistic
| Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 01:49 pm: |
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Kalali: Everything posted here is IMHO "OPINIONATED OPINIONS" !!! Like the FACTORY SERVICE MANUAL, there are some things that make things harder than what they really are and "i" wonder the who's brain was engaged in other places ... If it works of me it just might not work for you ... The BwB'ers is just a melting pot of everyone's ideas ... "BUT" "i" have a 104,386.1 miles as of the last ride on my 1997 S3T and the Top End has never been off ... "SO" some of my thoughts have worked for me ... |
Sloppy
| Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 - 08:16 pm: |
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FWIW, I turn the engine off and check oil level within a minute after coming back from a ride. I use my hip to lean the bike into a "safe" vertical position. Keep oil level on lower side of stick. Never had any problems. To each their own. |
Igneroid
| Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 09:25 am: |
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Been posting this on BwB for years now ... How did you miss it ??? "i" like your posts about BUELL info and experiences you have had. "I" dont like these condesending posts you make. Keep showing us your smarts about Buells and I wont bother you. Keep up with posts like this and Im gonna ride you like a rented mule....promise. |
Blackm2
| Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 10:39 am: |
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I wouldn't construe Lafayette's statement as condescending. Kind of tough to judge someones inflection in a sentence on a message board. Anyway, isn't a Canadian calling a french guy condescending the pot calling the kettle black? |
Buellistic
| Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 12:04 pm: |
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CONDESCEND: "PICK ONE" 1)to descend to less formal dignified level ... 2)to wave privileges of rank ... 3)to assume an air of superiority ... Or all three ??? CONDESCENDING: showing or characterized by condescension ... CONDESCENSION: 1) voluntary descent from one's rank or dignity in relations with an inferior ... 2) patronizing attitude ... One or both ??? |
Buellistic
| Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 12:19 pm: |
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BUELLers: Leave Ingeroid alone as he is doing just fine !!! "i" just cut through the "BUELLshitte" too quick and get right to the point ... This tends to up-set a lot of people ... |
Hugie03flhr
| Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 06:04 pm: |
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Chichiman,when you reinstalled the starter motor maybe you pinched one of the oil lines run down behind the engine. Also their is a vent line coming out of the oil tank, maybe pinched or clogged. Assuming you have checked what everyone else has said. AS far AS circulation goes, look in the oil tank while running and you will see the oil slowly circulating |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 03:32 pm: |
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"i" just cut through the "BUELLshitte" too quick and get right to the point ... I have a soft spot for you because you were the first person to respond to the very first post I made on the Badweb 8 years ago when I got my Buell. But the simple fact of the matter is you are not, "The Know All, Be All Master of All that is Buell", and some of the things you've said just don't make any sense at all (like improper primary chain adjustment causing oil pump drive gear failures). I was surprised at your condescending reaction (it most certainly was) to my post that simply tried to back up the information you presented as good and safe and corroberated by an independent observer. I will never do that again. I know you (Lafayette) are probably nothing like you present yourself on the internet, but 'Buellistic' is the only way most of us know you, and the you that we see here does indeed come across as condescending and impudent at times. That's cutting throught the bullshit, Buellistic. |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 03:39 pm: |
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"PICK ONE" Okay, I'll pick this one. 3)to assume an air of superiority ... It is difficult to pick up inflections written in short blurbs on internet posts, as point out earlier, but your further postings left no doubt as to your intent. And I believe your intent here was similar to the intent of your post on this thread... http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/47623/378471.html?1218051893 Do you really think you're helping anyone with little jabs like that? Do you really? (Message edited by djkaplan on August 06, 2008) |
Mmmi_grad
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 04:56 pm: |
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Some people need a hobby and want to be good at it. If it helps Buellistic to remember these things by typeing them out in hopes to help someone thats ok. Just blow off the notion that hes talking down to you. When talking about motorcycyle knowledge alot of people pride themselfs on what they know esp those that work on them. So just note it and dismiss it, thats what I do. But if its a cop talking down to me, ill be knocking on his bosss door to have a chat about that. |
Buellistic
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 10:32 pm: |
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Djkaplan: My intent is to make you think ... "BUT", "i" can not control the way you think ... |
Blackm2
| Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 12:00 am: |
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Hey Chichiman, it usually isn't like this in here. Hopefully your question was answered. |
Eshardball
| Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 05:42 am: |
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Back to my last question. Was your oil too high? It would seem the most logical explanation for blowing the dipstick out. Sorry your post got a little off track. I think mmigrad summed it up pretty well. |
Spiderman
| Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 07:05 am: |
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Cyclonemick
| Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 09:12 am: |
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That's Great!!!! |
Djkaplan
| Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 03:21 pm: |
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"BUT", "i" can not control the way you think ... You can certainly influence what people think about you, though. I will still read and look forward to your posts because there is good stuff to be found in them. And I still have a soft spot for your character 'Buellistic'. Age and wisdom still has cache for some of us, and you certainly aren't the first (or last) wise old sage that gave me an irritating zinger... you loveable old curmudgeon. |
Oldog
| Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2008 - 05:03 pm: |
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wise old sage that gave me an irritating zinger... you loveable old curmudgeon The last part would be an accurate statement, DJ If we meet again remind me to tell you about "the shirt" or "The helmet" |