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Thespive
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have been kicking it around, thinking of putting the TT suspension on my CityX. I love the 9 engine and love my bike, but wouldn't mind a hair more ground clearance or wheel travel for those dirt road excursions.

My biggest fear would be messing up the stellar handling since it is the long chassis supension on the short bike. Could it be setup right? What would be the best way to go about this? Any ideas, suggestions, or should I just enjoy it as it is?

Thanks, I love posing these questions to get the juices of my fellow BadWebbers flowing!

--Sean
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll bet it would be a wheelie monster with the short wheel base AND tall suspension!
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Thespive
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wheelie Monster = Fun. : )

So, from chatting with Chris Matty, he says doing the long swingarm, forks, and rear shock, should keep the geometry relative to what the CityX is now, rather than the laid back geometry of the STT and Uly.

So what exactly would I need for the swap? I am assuming forks, shock and swing arm, and guessing I would also need the belt (longer on the long frames?).

How hard would it be to set up? Would I want to use the STT suspension settings? Anyone have any ideas, input or advice?

--Sean

(Message edited by thespive on July 17, 2007)
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd use the STT suspension settings.

With the swingarm change, you'll need an STT brake line as well. I just happen to have one I'd sell ya cheap : ) Leftover from my Ulybolt project.

You may also need the TT or SS rear fender.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't forget that you will also need a longer kickstand too.
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Chessm
Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 12:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

why dont you just get a TT?
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Thespive
Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 01:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Because I still have payments on my CityX and frankly I like the 9 engine better than the 12, as it is quicker revving, less vibes, smoother running, power delivery is more linear and is well balanced for the machine.

On the other hand, I might want to take a dirt road and wouldn't mind the extra ground clearance for my occasional burst of hooliganism. : )

The main thing that would suck is having to different colored swing arm, or having to paint a long swing arm to match. Maybe someone can photoshop a City with the long swing arm for me?

Hey Steve, PM me, I might be able to take that line off your hands.

So far the parts list looks like this:

Rear brake line
Swing arm
Belt?
Forks
Shock
Rear Fender
Kickstand

Am I missing anything?

I wish I could do this without changing the swing arm, but then I am sure I would have some handling issue.

--Sean
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 03:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You also have to move the battery tray, there is a firebolt in tech kv that did the longer swing arm conversion. Pretty complete pics and break down of the things to avoid. On the ground clearance, you will only be gaining 1 inch. You could gain up to three inches if you moved the exhaust to up under the seat, put a bash plate on it and should be less money, then you could get a decent loud stage 1 too. The 3.5 inches of clearance will get you down most fireroads, it will keep you off the single track, 4.5 inches isnt really much help there. IMHO It would be better to spend the money on the down payment for when the dirt bike comes out : D
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Thespive
Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why does the battery tray need to be moved? Is it because of the TT shock? Obviously the Firebolt has some different issues to deal with than a Lightning as the rear frames are completely different. I'll see if I can find that post in KV and figure out what applies to me.

Also, the CityX has 4.35-inches of ground clearance, STT is listed at 5.5-inches, fine for whaere I would want to go. If I am doing anything that requires more, it'll be in my Jeep or a dirt bike. I just want to be able to say "hey, what is down that road?" And go check it out. And who wants a loud pipe? I had a race pipe on my CityX and returned it to stock, my ears were never happier!

My friend said it best, " The longer rear will keep chassis numbers relative, so you don't end up with something that turns like a unicycle. Plenty of sweet, cushy, hardcore strafing. "

And thats what I am going for.

--Sean
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Thespive
Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Danger Dave did this for me, looks decent with the darker swing arm, what do you guys think?



--Sean
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