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Isham
Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The rivets on the front section of the pipe have loosened up. Looks like the holes on the outside of the can got bigger and are too big for reriveting. So I drilled two new holes and have found they have loosened also. Seems like the metal is just too soft for this violent engine. Anyone experience any problems.

The solution I’m looking at now is some kind of epoxy.
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Buellerx
Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had the same thing happen on 2 Jardine pipes. The only solution I came up with was to replace the jardine with something else. I now Have a Spec Ops Pipe and have had no issues. Although Im still waiting for a custom mapped ECM for a XB12 w/a Spec Ops exhaust : )
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Cmm213
Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some Jardines pull apart and some dont, my old one never did but I sold it anyways for a drummer.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From what I've seen on other bikes, and heard on this board, the rivets loosening
like that may be sign that your pipe needs to be repacked. Is it developing hot spots
on the sides too?

My Jardine hasn't developed any of these problems, but I'm getting ready to re-pack
it this winter anyway.

The rivets need to fit pretty snug in the holes too. If they feel loose, go to the
next bigger size of rivet.
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Woolf
Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 08:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It needs to be repacked. What happens is when the packing burns out, the little explosions, for those of us who don't have a tune, and just the overall pressure from the exhaust will now be right against the can instead of having the added cushioning from the packing. This causes the can to come apart. There are a couple of solutions. Stay on top of packing, use stainless packing so it never needs to be done again, or use stainless packing and have the can tig welded shut (pretty impracticle if you don't have the means to do it on your own.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where does one get this packing? Regular packing and the stainless packing? I wouldn't mind doing the stainless packing and Tig it all up solid.
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Holling
Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some bike shops sell the packing in bags hanging on the wall. About $25 a bag.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The company Staintune sells stainless steel exhaust packing.

As has been said before, most motorcycle shops will have exhaust packing available.

It's a tightly packed fiberglass (or similar) material in most cases.
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Darkducati
Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can buy the kit from Jardine which includes the packing and rivets. In regards to the rivets pulling out, I haven't had this problem. But it may be due to the fact that after having a problem during installation with the top of the muffler hitting the case. The solution was a rubber mallet. Have about 1/4 in of clearance now.
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Isham
Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My muffler doesn't touch the case. All the shaking has enlarged the holes.
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Oneway
Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

mine did not come loose untill the packing burnt out, and the tube started rattling.running hollowed can right now and rivets have'nt came loose yet
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Pcmodeler
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got the sealed stainless steel rivets from a boat dealership parts department. You will need those to reassemble it.
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Cereal
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

<hijack>
I just bought a Jardine for my xb9r. At what mileage should I consider repacking?
</hijack>
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Oneway
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

mine was one season about 6000 mile yours may be different
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have 8500 miles on mine. still tight and sounds good.
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Isham
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can't find the SS exhaust packing anywhere. I called up some staintune dealers and they don't sell any packing. Call up jardine also and they don't sell packing either. Whats going on here???
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Diablobrian
Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Staintune used to sell their packing in a kit. I had one of their pipes on my VF 1000 F interceptor.

A stainless steel wool will do the job in absence of a proper packing kit, but you will need to
pack it in rather tight. (wear gloves)
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Isham
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Steel wool is the answer. That search gave me a bunch of things.

http://www.briwax-online.com/sswool.html
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Oneway
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i tried reg steel wool burnt out in about a week
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Woolf
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Briwax stuff works great
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Isham
Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oneway what you use a few SOS pads?
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Oneway
Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

no, fine steel wool must not have been the best choice
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