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Buellgirlie
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 01:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

cracked the front fairing support piece (the silver piece behind the nose bodywork that the mirrors attach to) in my race crash.

i think its magnesium. has anyone tried to patch it before? it doesnt need to be pretty, but i would like it to be structurally solid again.

thx
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Lucas70374
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 01:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I tried to get it welded but it didnt hold at all, just bought a new one. I heard it can be welded a certain way
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 01:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

we just pop riveted aluminum "L" brackets on in place of the original cast ends when
they have broken. Cheaper than replacing the support, and an easy fix at the track too!
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Buellgirlie
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 01:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

diablobrian - could you post or email me some pics of that?

thx
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 02:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll see what I can do, no pics on my computer of it right now, and the bike
is not at my house though, so be patient!
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Buellgirlie
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 02:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

dearie, i have til august......



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Aldaytona
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Want to do it easier?
Spread 4 minute J B Weld over the broken edges and hold in place approx 4 minutes. Cut coat hangers, nails, ect. to size to fit between cast braces on support. Lay metal in pattern (like rebar in concrete), pour in regular J B Weld and install in 24 hours. It may break again but most likely not there.
It works, don't ask me how I know.
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Buellgirlie
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks aldaytona - but i'm really wary of inserting coat hanger/nail pieces in as support - the LAST thing i need is for one of those to stab me in crash

something good to know for a quick on the road fix though!

thx
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Dmextreme
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

off topic.. NICE PICTURE!!! way to hug the track! WOW!

okay, thats out. been wanting to say it for 3 days now.. : )
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Aldaytona
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dora,Dora,Dora, would I tell you about something that could get you hurt? That big chunk of hardened and reinforced J B Weld will be the strongest part of the front of your XB. If you were to crash into anything hard enough to break that repair, coat hanger and or nail pieces would be the least of your worries.
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Interex2050
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

off topic... but the front support piece burns really well... (first hand experience)
just do not try to put it out with water...
I would be fearful to try and weld it
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Magnesium is that way. It's a self oxidizer, but it's light, and rigid!

A good welding shop can handle welding it, VW has used it for years, as
have others so it's not as exotic as it once was.

(Message edited by diablobrian on June 24, 2006)
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Interex2050
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what would be the proper shielding gas to use (CO2?)...?
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No, you don't want carbon in the weld. Like Aluminum that will be BAD.

Here is a better explanation than I could give: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_tungsten_arc_welding#Aluminum_and_magnesium

Note: argon for thin pieces, Helium for thick. blunt electrode, A/c arc.
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Exitlandrew
Posted on Saturday, June 24, 2006 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just drilled a couple holes and used zip ties, its been holding for about a year and no rattles at all.
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