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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's well known how the XB's short wheel base always led to launching problems in 1/4 runs. Since it hasn't been discussed yet. How do you think that the XB12Ss would do in 1/4 runs with it's longer wheel base? For that matter, how about the XB12X?
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Dana P.
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No better really.Its not that much longer to make a difference.Buells throw out lots of torque at the bottom end so wheelies are in the forcast.
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Tommy_k
Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's all in the launch. I have the Ss, and it definitely doesn't wheelie that easily...I think the 2" makes a huge difference. I'm 195, and really have to either work the throttle (close/open quickly in first), or clutch it up. A 4" stretch on my Bandit 1200 was enough to make it never wheelie again...actually would just break the tire loose...which was WAY cool in its own right. On a normal street/race launch on the Ss, I can slam the throttle open, and it may just pop a bit, but if I'm down on the tank...err, air box cover, NO worries at all. I love it!
FWIW,
TK
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tommy - I have a new Ss (850 miles on it) and my experience is entirely different from yours. I'm 185 lbs so the weight is basically the same. Have you made any mods to your bike yet? When mine was brand new I had to work it a bit to wheelie, but since the addition of the Drummer SS, K&N and race ecm the thing will wheelie effortlessly in first at any RPM over 2000. No clutching, no off then on with the throttle is required. I just punch it and up it comes. If I hit it too hard I have to chop the clutch or tap the back brake to stop it from coming up too far too fast. If I catch it right it will do a 45 degree wheelie for a long time. My XB 9 seemed to hit its rev limiter much sooner under the same circumstance. In the RPM range of 1100 to 2000 I have to stand up and tug fairly hard on the bars to get it to wheelie and it will chug it up. My 9 would stand straight up with much less effort down at the bottom of the RPM range. Maybe its the taller primary ratio or the extra 2" in the swingarm over the 9 that makes the difference. Honestly, I think I'd do poorly at the dragstrip. I guess I just don't have the right skill set to launch the thing without wheelieing it. I used to slam my 9 into second to get a nice wheelie, but I've been afraid to try it on the 12 just yet. I need to get a few more miles on it.
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Tommy_k
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've seen the dyno chart for the SS pipe, and it's a world of difference from my basically stock bike. I have KN and spec ops pipe, but besides losing 4-5 pounds, the power is about the same as stock...I'm guessing around 85-87hp. It's hot as hell down here too, so that doesn't help. I totally think I'm going to get the SS pipe and race ecm. Tq and Hp both pick up bigtime it looks like, not to mention an additional 7lbs off the middle/front. That, plus a bigbore kit this spring, should get it up no problem...the front wheel I mean you sick bazzdard.

TK
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tommy - The Drummer would be a good choice. It seems like most after market mufflers give up the low end for improvements in the middle or top end. The Drummers enhance the whole RPM range, especially at the bottom. I'm really happy with my new Drummer SS so far. It will run good with the stock ECM, but you should get the race ECM to maximize the gains.
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