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Hogs
Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Who can make one? Perhaps one of the sponsors and keep it kind of I`ll say inexpensive and not cheap made out of alliunmin or stainless steel is this possible??Excuse my spelling... Design and fit?? Keeping it all light as possible ??? How about Norris up for another project LoL I`ll test one out LoL No really Might be interested in one...I w`d like to get rid of that plastic one,and show the mechanics of it all underneath,seems a shame to hide all that under a hunk of plastic ...

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Hogs
Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Something like an X design corner to corners or whatever .Wd. like to see all that is within as well , not cover much up! Btw. someone has one on their bike looks good But I Can`T remember who it was , or something a little different. Anyone with any different ideals on design,materials etc.etc ??
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Hogs
Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone with a Miller should be able to pump a few of these out yes, no ???
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Norrisperformance
Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Chris

I've got so many projects going on, I’ll have to
work on that one later on. I actually started
that project a few months back, but it's on
the back burner now. The main reason is, it
will add weight, so most would prefer carbon fiber.
But I still want one for my bike. I’ll keep you
in the loop on the progress.

I’ve got to get caught up enough so I can finish
the nitrous bottle clamps, fixtures and breather lid
for my bike. Should have worked today, but I
took it off. I’ll be working about 14 hrs tomorrow
trying get promised work out.

Your package show up yet?

LOL
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Norrisperformance
Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My grammar skills suck too!
Good thing I don't depend on em.

LOL
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Hogs
Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Mike thats cool... Keep me posted when you might make a couple HeY maybe two spin offs one USA. and thee other Canadian..LoL I think the doods nick was Misata or something who had sort of a neat one I`ll see if I can find the link... My long term Mem. is good But my short term is questionable... Should get it anywheres from 1 to 2 weeks depending on the MULES postal ...
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Hogs
Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Carbon Fiber YuK!! Never take the old school out of me...This cover wd. weight WHAT lets say 500 -600 grams approX: 1 lb. or less right Now I say POOIE for lack of a better word LoL on carbon Fiber Hey DooD lose a lb. of FAT or LOse a few then you will really FLYYYYYYYYYYYY LoL Wheres that 3/4 lb. of Stainless Steel or alium. for that matter..I`m sure ya can whip em up Mike Keep this Dood Posted !
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Hogs
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Okay,who might want one of these type sprocket covers IF we could get someone to build em???
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Hogs
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.xb9s.com/pics/dayoff/pages/DSC06808.htm

maybe something along these lines only different??
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Tatsu
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I want these!!

http://www.soetengadesign.com/Buell%20drive%20sprocket%20guard.htm
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Norrisperformance
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool !
There you go Hogs. $112.00
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Chainsaw
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nice find Tatsu! They have some really cool stuff. I dig the heel guards (and the spring seat kit for the Sporties)
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Hogs
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Tatsu, Nice find Have to go and check em out now ... thanks again. There ya go ask and you will receive,...May be cool just as they are , or what do ya think any other ideals compare to what ya all see here??
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Tatsu
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those twisters are not available for the Buell yet they were looking for a dealer to work with, but I want the blue ones when they come out.
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Starter
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 04:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They should take all of about 10min for anyone with machining gear to make. Then just get it anodised
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Hogs
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone with any other ideals???
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike - I made SolidWorks drawings of that cover last year. When we get some time we can mess around with a new billet design.
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Hogs
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There ya go Jerseyguy,
You got lots of spare time on your hands do her up..!! LoL
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How about these?




Price to the US would be UK£86.80 (approx US$160) plus shipping.
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BadS1
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

www.crossroadsperformance.com make one as well.
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Hogs
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Trojan,
Those are WILD to say the least, Niceeeeee, But what about a Good Price to Canada With Canadian Funds LoL. KInd of rich for me here,... BUT Xmas is coming, Orrrrrrrrr Send me one over and I`ll Sort of be your Canadain Show of piece Hey Not bad Marketing for ya, I`ll sort of test ride one for ya LoLLL
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Hogs
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HEy Thanks BadS1, Nice I`ll check some of their gear out , But on that Cover I think Trojan`s Product beats it HAnds Down, For me to see whats behind going on is important and I know u can remove the cover on thee other, but looks like it might be heavy, Price Hmmmmmmmm lots of $$$$$ Thanks for reminding me on that site for gear, knew about but just lost the link...Cool
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Hogs
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Trojan,
Btw what are they made of? and the little part up front that covers the sensors,is that a plastic part or?? Thanks Oh and I see either rivets , or screws running along the top edge is that for the same plastic part for suport etc. ?
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Hogs
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HEy BAds1,

Crossroads has a cover for the blast , something like that wd. be cool for the Xb`s and thats I know what you got Trojan, or that type of style... LoL Now just need all that $$$$ another one on the wish list. MY list is growing and growing and I don`t believe there is NO Damn SANATA.!!!LoL
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They are made completely from billet aluminium, including the front black part.

The small allen head bolts you can see across the top hold the horizontal aluminium shield in place that runs along the top of the guard.
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Hogs
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HEy Trojan,
So its milled out of one piece or does that front black part we are talking about bolt on? Can you show a pic. or two on the top horizontal aluminium sheild and how it runs along the top... Thanks... Guess you are still working on that Canadain Lonnie price LoL..
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Ronlv
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

trojan, nice, lets see a pic on bike

why is everyone always trying to hit a homerun when pricing aftermarket parts for buell, i just dont understand (not directed only at you trojan)

what would time and materials be to do a sprocket cover, less than 20 bucks each and they sell for over 100, makes me sick

to me thats not buell support

its just my stupid opinion, so nobody needs to get mad

later, ron
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Indy_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ronlv, I agree. It makes me want to learn how to machine billit myself.

I like some of the stuff from Crossroads Performance, unfortunately their website seems kinda confusing.
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Rageonthedl
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think if you could replace the right side part of the chin faring with a longer one that would go all the way back to cover the sprocket would me cool
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Norrisperformance
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let’s see if we can do a little figuring here.
To make these guards this is what you’ll need.
A decent CNC milling center $ 50,000.00
A decent CNC turning center $ 50,000.00
Tooling for both machines $2500.00 min
Anywhere from 2000.00 to 20,000.00 for software.
A minimum of four years on the job training before
you stop destroying .

Ok, so now you got that far lets try to make some money
making the part in question. And lets say your only making
20 bucks an hour. And at 20 an hour the bank will repo your
machines, since you can’t make the payments. But anyway
here we go.

If every thing went perfect, est 6 hrs design time. $120.00
Material $10.00
Write the machine program. $ 20.00
write program and machine fixtures need $20.00
And did I mention if something breaks $$$$$$$$$$$$$
Cut material to length and debur $5.00
Set up machines and tools to be used $10.00
Bolt material to be machine in the fixture
and machine the part. $ 20.00
Take part out, clean a debur $5.00
Send part out to be anodized
one part will cost the same as having 50
done at the same time. $100.00
Total $310.00
And this is an unrealistic price because
you couldn’t pay the payments on the machines
or your overhead at 20 an hour.
Most shops charge between 50 to 80 bucks
an hour depending on their location.
I try to shoot for 40 a hour but it rarely
happenings. I’m to damn good hearted.

The above is why production parts are less
expensive. And also why custom one off parts
cost so much. The more you make, the more
cost efficient they become.

Ok, now you want to know why you saw a part for
10. bucks somewhere.
Labor rate in china is .56cents an hour
and the part was no machined from a solid
piece of aluminum, thats what billet is, solid.
It was a poured, cast molded part.
And cast parts are brittle from all the voids
in the part, caused by air pockets and impurities.
And they are not close tolerance parts.
You might say very cheap parts.

OK, schools out lol.



(Message edited by norrisperformance on May 18, 2005)
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