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Pcmodeler
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Now I know why some of you guys have wanted to swap over the suspension parts to your XBR's. Very comfortable riding position. I was able to not only put my entire foot down but actually bend at the knee as well. The position/height of the bars was very nice as well. I really wish they would make an XB9/12RL. I prefer the look of the tail/fairing on the XBR (which is why I bought one) over the S series.

Does anyone know what the differences are in the front forks between the R and the SL? Must be running different spring in the same fork?
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Brad_buell
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The only difference between the two are the springs. Shorter springs in the front forks, and a shorter spring in the rear shock assembly. The actual fork and rear mechanism are identical in both bikes. It is visibly noticeable in the rear because the shorter rear spring is Yellow. The normal rear spring is Blue. It is far easier to swap the forks and rear shock assembly than change out the springs. But I guess that depends on your mechanical ability.
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Imonabuss
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brad,

You are mistaken. It is more than the springs. The forks and shocks are actually shorter with less travel, and have slightly different damping values as well. Check with the factory if you don't believe me.
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If your coming up on your 10K service having the fork springs changed out with the fork oil is a breeze, and the rear spring isn't all that hard to change.
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Pcmodeler
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I currently have about 7500 miles on it, but one of the front fork seals appears to be leaking, so I've thought about having it swapped out when I take it in to have the seals changed out. I have a ton of mods that I want to do but I'm hoping to make it through this riding season and do it this winter.
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Brad_buell
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Imonabuss -

Just had the SPRINGS changed out at the dealer. No Problem. Shock assembly in tact.

-Brad
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Gusmyster
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brad,
What did it cost you to have the 3 springs changed?
g u s
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Opto
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

According to the Lightning parts book the L model differs from the 12 or 9 forks by having diff P/N springs, spring collars, damper assy and preload adjustment assy. The shock assy also has a diff P/N and it's not just the spring. I'm looking into this seriously though (for my missus) and if people are getting away with just changing the springs that would be good to know. I just can't see how shorter springs alone would be a good solution as there's a chance they would not be held in place firmly with the wheel at maximum travel (extended).
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Yohinan
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was supposed to call Dave last week about this as he has done this more than once for his customers, from what I have heard through the grape vine. He sent me an email telling me to give him a tel call but I just have been so busy lately I havent had a chance to call yet. Cant confirm for sure, but the way he described it to me was (hopefully I didnt misunderstand) the fork bodies are the same but the internals are different. Exactly how many parts of those internals are different I am not sure but it didnt sound too terribly complicated. As far as the rear shock goes it is just simply and R&R with the lower shock. I am also doing this to a 12R. John
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Xring
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From a Sport Twins post about the same topic:
http://www.sporttwin.net/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1520&highlight=
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Brad_buell
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was Wrong. I apologize to all.

My front fork damper assemblies were replaced as well as the springs. I just looked at the bill. Also needed was Fork Oil and (2) Fork Stopper Rings(J0124.02A8). I was so happy to get it back that I didn't look into the detail of the bill.

However, the rear spring was just a trade out: Spring for Spring.

Oh, and don't forget, the Sidestand will need to be replaced. On my bill as well.

-Brad
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brad, list the part numbers for the extra parts if you can : )
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Opto
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From Lightning Models parts book: shoulda done this last post:

Spring, fork XB9SL J0113.1AE, XB9S/12S J0113.02A8
Spring Joint, fork XB9S/SL models only J0117.028A
Spring Collar XB9SL J8135.1AE, XB9/12S J8135.02A8
Damper Assy XB9SL J8139.1AE, XB9/12S J8139.02A8
Preload Adjustment Assy XB9SL J8144.1AE, XB9/12S J8144.02A8

Spring, rear shock XB9SL K0424.1AE
Spring, rear shock XB9/12S K0424.02A8
The shock spring retainer kit for all models is the same, allaying my earlier fears. It's more than possible the guts of the rear shock is the same. Hope we don't need the Preload Adjustment Assy for the front forks, it looks expensive (the fork cap assy). I'm also wondering why the "Spring Joint, Fork" (a spacer between the fork spring and the tube above it called the fork spring collar) is only listed for XB9S/XB9SL and not XB12S? Must be a mistake.
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