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Geoffg
| Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 10:53 am: |
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Is there a difference between the shop manuals for the 03 and 04 XBs? I'm buying an 03, but the dealer wants to sell me the shop manual for an 04. Is the information in it valid for the 03s? Also, the dealer is having difficulty locating the owner's manual for the bike. He says that everything in the owners manual is also in the shop manual--is this true? (I wonder about things like suspension settings, etc.) I'd kinda like the owner's manual anyway, to carry with me on trips... |
Buellman39
| Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 10:57 am: |
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They are both the same. |
Unibear12r
| Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 07:59 pm: |
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It looks to me that everything in the owners manual is in the shop manual. I used the shop manual to set my suspension, its got it. You should be able to order a new owner's manual. |
Kowpow225
| Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 08:16 pm: |
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Ding! The belt guard section might be different. Are you talking about the service manual or the owners manual? |
Chainsaw
| Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 08:21 pm: |
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I assume there are small differences between the manuals (the 03 and 04 belts are different for example). I would recommend ordering the 03 SM, unless the dealer gives you a smokin' deal on the 04 (which I'm betting he has in stock and is collecting dust) I personally would skip purchasing the owners manual. The service manual seems to cover everything in the OM. The OM is of limited usefulness. Look up "spark plugs" in the OM expecting to find a part number? Nope. From the OM: "Replace the spark plugs every 10,000 miles. See your Buell dealer or Service Manual for details." XB9R Owners Manual: Part No. 99475-03Y XB9R Service Manual: Part No. 99493-03Y (I'd guess a certain Buell Dealer in Appleton, WI could get you either of these at a 10% discount.) |
Brad_buell
| Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 01:42 pm: |
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You don't need an Owners manual if you get the Service Manual. However, I would order the '03. You can always order from Daves with a 10% discount if you have problems getting one from your local dealer. Get the manual written for your bike. |
Geoffg
| Posted on Saturday, March 05, 2005 - 07:26 pm: |
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Thanks, guys. Yeah, I'm concerned about things like the belt change procedures (which may be different) and maybe the wiring on the speedo sensor (wasn't that upgraded for 04?) Minor stuff--but then again, if there is a difference I won't know unless it's noted. Dealer says they're the same, but this is the same dealership where the parts guy didn't know what frame pucks were, then when he found them in the catalogue he asked me where they go on the bike... As for the owner's manual, I assume one is supposed to come with the bike. Dealer couldn't find it the day I was in to pick up the bike--since the bike wasn't ready, they've got a coupla weeks to look for it. |
Court
| Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 06:33 am: |
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>>>I assume one is supposed to come with the bike. Yes. The owners manual comes with the motorcycle. If your dealer has any problem securing one, drop me a note. Court |
Daves
| Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 09:49 am: |
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Get the 03 service manual for your 03 bike. The owners manual comes with the bike, have them order one for you. |
Starter
| Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 06:15 pm: |
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I got the 03 Softcopy and 04 Hardcopy and there are heaps of little things. |
Buellny
| Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 07:24 pm: |
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How much is the service manual for an 03 XB9SL? I would like to purchase one. |
Arvebuell
| Posted on Saturday, March 12, 2005 - 08:54 pm: |
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Do you think a service manual could teach a little mechanics if I dont have a clue? If so, I am interested too. |
Geoffg
| Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 10:28 am: |
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Ordered the 03 shop manual from Daves, along with a few other things--what a difference! He knew what I meant when I said things like "frame pucks," had stuff in stock, and didn't try to sell me an 04 manual for my 03 bike (all unlike the "dealer" I've been dealing with). A pleasure... |
Geoffg
| Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 10:36 am: |
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Oh, and Arve, I dunno...just how "clueless" are you? Service manuals (in my experience) generally give instructions such as "remove part ; remove part B; inspect part C for wear; installation is the reverse of removal, etc. They seldom tell you exactly which nuts/bolts need to be removed to remove said parts, how to remove fasteners which are stuck, etc.--they are written with an expectation that the reader does have basic mechanical knowledge and experience. On the other hand, you don't need to be a licensed mechanic or mechanical engineer to do your own work! As long as you are careful, make sure you understand what the instructions mean, and avoid forcing anything, I think home mechanics give vehicle owners a much closer appreciation of their own machines. |
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