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Peak2peak
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a choice between buying a SuperTT 1200 and the XB9R

I test rode the SuperTT but am not able to test ride the XB9R

Just wondering if folks would give me some feedback on the differences please. I liked the SuperTT and rode it about 5 miles.

I thought the engine was pretty great and it sounded wonderful too even with the stock exhaust. I wasn't really used to it so I struggled with lack of power in the rear brake and it standing up in the corners if I did any mid corner adjustments (but that's probably my fault). Coming off a Cagiva Gran Canyon (900cc Ducati powered adventure touring bike).

The price for the XB9R is about 2k less than the TT so obviously it's worth considering for me even though I am drawn to a bigger motor personally.

Thanks in advance. Been wanting a Buell forever. Excited to get one soon I hope. The other one I was looking at was the Ulysses but people seem to be asking too much money for what I've seen at least.
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Doz
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I find an 08+ stt I'm buying it. Not too many out there. I've already got too many 9's (is there such a thing?) Never ridden an STT so I can't give a comparison.
What kind of riding do you do?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It will feel way different because of the seating position. The STT is a much rarer bike, and probably has better suspension, though the seating position of the R would ultimately make it a better performer, if you want that position.

Motor wise, the 9 will feel like the 12 but with a lot less bottom end. Sound is just as good, actually better maybe, as the howl of a 9 at 7200 RPM through a gutted airbox is about as good as it gets...
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

9R vs STT is like a scalpel vs a steak knife. Both are great, both cut things, but they are two totally different tools. The STT and 9R don't share many parts, even less if is a newer STT vs older 9R.

Personally I feel the STT is a better street/hooligan bike, the suspension is great, the riding position is comfortable. The 9R is more track friendly.
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Peak2peak
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The STT is a '07 actually.

Is that a bad year? What were the updates for 08?

the 9R is a 2003. I typically do commuting in a somewhat rural area and then go for 100-200 mile rides on weekends. Sometimes I do 500 mile plus weekend trips. I did one Iron Butt 1000 in 22 hrs last summer.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

The STT is a '07 actually.

Is that a bad year?




Kinda, 07 XB12 models have an usually high rate of crankshaft failures due to a bad batch from the factory.


quote:

What were the updates for 08?




They were pretty significant. Entire bottom end of the motor was changed, beefier crankshaft design, higher RPM, new fuel injection system, better oiling system too, amongst other things. I would really favor an 08+ over an older year if pricepoint is similar.


Most XB9R's are 2003 models. They are fine overall, no major issues to watch out for, but some minor and easy to fix things like bad headlight reflectors.

From a reliability standpoint, I'd take the 03. While the 07 is better in many ways, it is rolling the dice with that crank. That said, an engine swap should it ever fail is not too terrible if you are mechanically inclined, and used motors go for around a grand on ebay.
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Midknyte
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"...standing up in the corners if I did any mid corner adjustments..."

Does it have Dunlops on it? These were known for that if the suspension is not dialed in for your weight.

Better / other tires with a different profile will fix.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 07's did have a lot of failures. Not necessarily a deal breaker, but the 08's and up were much better motors... probably the best motor Harley ever made (thanks to Buell engineers and demands for quality improvements).

Here is real data on the 07's...
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/648773.html?1374261251

The 9's on the other had appear just about bullet proof from first year to last.

It's a shame the 12 motor was a 12 motor, instead of a turbo charged 9 like it was supposed to be.
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Doz
Posted on Thursday, December 11, 2014 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Peak, for the price of a 08 STT you could probably buy 2 xb9's of an earlier year.
All four xb's of mine are 03's...I like lots of spare parts available. (my excuse)
The least expensive was bought for $2100, was rode worthy and needed nothing.
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Mmcn49
Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2014 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I own two 07 TT’s. One has over 30K. I’ve set each one up a little differently but greatly enjoy both. All the problems I’ve had with both bikes though a little irritating have been fairly minor. Have never had a catastrophic engine failure. When riding I get into the bike and enjoy it but don’t stunt, race or ride too insanely.

The TT and XB9 are different bikes. Buell marketed the TT as their Sport Touring Bike. Its wheelbase is 0.1” shorter than the Uly and about 2” longer than the 9. Ground clearance is more than the 9 but only a little less than the Uly.

You need to determine what you want to do with the bike and buy accordingly. Based on my experience I wouldn’t hesitate to purchase an 07.
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Aschem
Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2014 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an 07 Stt with 9k on it; zero problems so far.
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Dualsportdad
Posted on Saturday, January 03, 2015 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As much as I'd love to get a hold of a stt I think I'd avoid 07 buells at all costs. I know I'm over doing it a little but I really do fear the crank failure.

I'd love to find someone willing to trade a 08 stt for my uly tho. They are rare tho and might end up buying a ss and swapping the seat and front fender to get the stt look.
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