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Blazinbueller13
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know this may sound stupid but...how do you do a wheelie? I can only do them in first gear, but any other gear, I can't get the bike up.
I watch all the other riders on Jap bikes cruise along at 40 or 50, and they just pop up the front and go. they make it look so simple. Could someone please explain to me how to do this with the XB. Do they use the clutch?
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Someone tell me why there isn't any threads dedicated to finding the correct apex of a corner????
I think Keith Code said it best. "A wheelie is the most worthless thing you can do on a motorcycle." Or somethin like that. But if you must know.
XB's an Jap bikes two diffent breeds. Most use the clutch some use pure power that a liter bike has depends on bike an rider. I find that most Buells can only do wheelies in first an second, if you are good enough you can carry the front wheel through the gears. Depends on how cumfy you are with your balancing point. I find the best thing to do on my M2 is get up to about 20mph Sit back on the seat, wack the throttle open an ballance. Just remeber to keep your foot over the brake pedal, that could save your ass.
Well thats my humble oppinion i'm sure there will be more to follow.
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Kcfirebolt
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The only stupid question is the only you don't ask. There are several experts here who may choose to offer counsel. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them.

I too suffer "frontus liftus" difficientcy. (sniff) Maybe we should start our own 12 step program.
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry if that came of harsh I am still doin Nyquill an Diet Pepsi Shooters. I am guilty also, just seems like a lot of questions like this have been asked lately an with the advent of so many crashes, one guy even bein takin out by a guy on a Bicycle. LOL Back to my happy meds
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Smitty
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you really want to do this, I dont know your past riding experence. It would be best to get an old dirt bike and practice your balance point and what the bike does with hitting the rear brake to bring down the front and throttle to rise. It is cheeper to use an old bike to learn because chances are good you will go down a few times when learning. It looks easier than it is and if your bike goes down a big repair bill to you and or your bike will be the result. Be safe wear your gear I know it looks kool but my advice dont do this stunt.


Chris enjoy your ride. Tim
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Misato
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

of course this is on a closed road, I found that shifting kinda hard into second (shift at maybe ~6k) will bring it up. thats how I started practicing 2nd gear wheelies. now I can just roll at 40 (~4k 2nd), clutch in, gas then release clutch. (dont try this at home)
first gear is so short and jerky, second I found goes longer and throttle response is not as violent.

and yes, I've seen what happens when things go terribly wrong.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

KLR
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Road_thing
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

XR600R
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You could go here www.ononewheel.com
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Evil_twin
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Okay, I DO NOT condone this activity on open roads. This should only be done in a controlled environment. With that said, here goes.

There are basically two ways to do a wheelie.

1) Power wheelie: This is where you use the engines torque to get the front end up. During your roll, get your RPMs into the peak torque range. Cut and snap the throttle. This will cause the front forks to dip, and then you will use the rebound to help lift the front of the bike up.
2) Clutched wheelie: During your roll, pull the clutch into the friction zone, just enough to get the clutch to release, raise the RPMs a few thousand, then release the clutch. The surge of power should lift the bike.

Rules: ALWAYS cover the rear brake. If things get sketchy, just tap the brake and back down you go. When you get the front end up where you can't or can barely see over the front of the bike (depends on the bike), you are right around the balance point.

You should practice these on a dirt bike. I grew up on them. Going down on the pavement sucks. I know from experience. (Not my fault though)

Keep in mind that wheelies are the easiest stunt to do, but the hardest to explain. These are just a general idea of how to do them.

With all of that said, be safe. Keep the shiny side up.
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V2win
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wheelie's and sex.... The longer you can do it, the better. :)
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Blazinbueller13
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, Thanks for all the advice and I will practice on my dirt bike. I have a 97 YZ250.
Like I said before, I can do a wheelie in 1st gear but not any other gear, that is what I want to try. To me finding that balance point is sketchy...afraid of loopin' the bike. Spent to much money to piss it away on a foolish trick!
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Turnagain
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

practice, practice, practice and then snap a picture for us when you can do this:


edited by turnagain on November 14, 2003
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is Mike when he hits 2nd hard.

Mike
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Buelluk
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As Spider man reiterated from Keith code..why do you want to learn to do something as pointless as a wheelie, the only aspect of this I think that is useful is in being able to manage the front wheel when you get it up thru operator error !..I don't know about the legal implications of this in the US, but in the UK this is an offence which the local law enforcement officers tend to clamp down ..its an easy pull for them...squids on Jap scrap with more money than sense.
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Usapitbullz
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Funny that Keith Code has in the past said that about wheelies. His school now has a class dedicated to teaching wheelies!


L8R, JM
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Kaese
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds like Keith Code finally gave up on his wheelie ethics. Saw that jokers were going to do them anyway. Why not instruct on how to do them in the safest manner possible.
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Nevco1
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Think of it as pure capitalism. Many wanted to learn which left an open niche in the training market. KC ain't no dummy!
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Usapitbullz
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here it is Wheelie school

Looks kinda fun!


L8R, JM
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Look at the post above Usapitbullz its already posted
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V2win
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wheelies are fun and serve a purpose. They make you feel good!:)

V2win feel'n good on the Blue Ridge Parkway
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Spooky
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 03:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wheelies are fun, just ask Bubba! I had a lot of fun pulling a wheelie in 2nd gear on a XB9R that was stock, just don't let Don Tilley know what I was doing to his demo bike. I don't see any problem pulling a wheelie on the XB9S. I might have to test ride one sometime or rent one.

Eric
The crazy one riding the Blast
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Rocketman
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No wheelies fer chrisakes - like having sex but only in the missionary position.

Rocket
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Phillyblast
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 12:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Um hey Sean I seem to remember stopping for gas at Aaron's a couple of years ago and someone on a black S1, wearing a set of leathers with "Rocket" down one leg was wheelieing at the gas pump???? :)
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Rocketman
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

David, sorry mate No wheelies fer chrisakes was a question NOT a statement.

Did that guy have 'England' written down the other leg? If not you should have shot him - he's an impostor of the one true motorcycle prophet Rocket in England!

Rocket
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Squiz13
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My take on wheelies.
If you goin upwards you aint goin forwards :(
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Squiz13
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lo rocket hows it going ;)
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Phillyblast
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

he's an impostor of the one true motorcycle prophet Rocket in England!

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry Sean got all confused what with the talk of monkeys and footballs and riding position, etc. . . .
Seem to remember something written on the other leg now that you mention it. :)
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99buellx1
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's one that gets into multiple stunt teaching.

www.stunterschool.com


Craig
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Hardluckxb
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

..:::!!!!WOW!!!!:::..

Not that I need to try anything on that site anytime soon, but that is pretty amazing.

Has anyone joined the "school"?

How is the content?
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Hardluckxb
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check out the videos on this site:
http://www.teamxmx.com/home.htm

Anyone can do it...all you need is a beater, a parking lot and a lobotomy!!!
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Rocketman
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 04:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jeez Squiz as soon as I opened your profile and saw the back garden pic (nice shed LOL)I knew you was English!

Typical of British Buell owners, clearly you have more money than sense. Nice one!

I hear George Bush is in town today - handing out medals to British Buellers for their support of

Rocket
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Squiz13
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cant have money AND a Buell
(or sense come to that) :)
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