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Hippo888
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi All,

I was wondering what the specs are for the T27 (torx head) fasteners used throughout the XB bikes. I think they're 1/4 diameter with 20 thread pitch, but when I use that size die to clean the threads, it seems to shave off a bit of the threads too.

Thanks in advance,
Paul in MI
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Chainsaw
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the parts manual lists various lengths of pan head torx screws as 1/4-20. The socket head torx look like 10-24, with one oddball trusshead torx being 3/8-16. Just a cursory look, which specific one are you trying to fix?
Maybe I can narrow it down.
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And when you find out what size you need, replace them with allen head fasteners...
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Easyflier
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And when you find out what size you need, replace them with allen head fasteners...
But don't throw the old ones away, those little things are expensive.
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Hippo888
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Chainsaw,

It's the bolts holding the airbox down. There are 4 of them. The factory put on so much loctite that I have to put each fastener back into the hole it came from or the fastener binds when tightening. I've been trying to get the old loctite off with tap & die, but the die seems to be eating away too much thread.

Thanks again,
Paul in MI
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Leeaw
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Will carb and choke cleaner work on loctite?
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Jim_witt
Posted on Friday, October 31, 2003 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't know a thing about it, but I found this puppy!

BESTCHEM Debonder Description: Specially designed fluid for removing Loctite and other adhesives, thread-locking compound.
Application: Just apply few drops of BESTCHEM Debonder onto the bond. Allow penetration and the bond will be separated.
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Opto
Posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2003 - 03:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A bit of heat will break down loctite eg hot air gun, oven, needs to be a fair bit hotter than boiling water, the loctite will go soft.
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Kaese
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 01:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I thought I was stripping the threads. I will remove the Loctite.
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Kcfirebolt
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 02:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ha! I am smarter than all of you. I went ahead and stripped the threads! Just to make a point!

Okay, I didn't know what I was doing and it took a friend and an easy out to put me back in business.

I now know the difference between red and blue loctite. I wish the dealership knew the difference too.
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Kcfirebolt
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 02:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Actually I did not strip the threads rather I stripped the head.

Still embarassing.
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Hippo888
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2003 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They loctited EVERYTHING on the bike. I ordered some new bolts for the airbox and they came pre-covered in loctite (and cost a lot too!).

I bought a new die and will try to clean up the mess on the old bolts. I'm sure they're 1/4", 20 thread pitch because that's what it says on the packaging for the new bolts. Hopefully, I won't be taking off so much metal this time.

Paul in MI
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Hippo888
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've finally discovered that the Craftsman dies I've been using are slightly off. They're cutting off ~0.02" of fastener diameter. What bugs me is the 20-year-old-cheap-ass die set at work is accurate, but the relatively expensive Craftsman stuff is off. Spiderman, I'm coming back for more bolts!

As an aside, I was wondering what would happen if you stripped the threads on the frame over the gas tank. Is there enough metal on the frame to allow a heli-coil?



edited by hippo888 on November 18, 2003
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