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Blaster420
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So I got to thinking, what oil are the new XB's or all new Harley's going to ship with? The old Harley oil, or the new and improved Synthetic Harley oil?
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd imagine the new synth. And imagine that, breaking in an engine on synthetic.
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99buellx1
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Actually the oil is done at the dealership. Given, there is a little residue in the motor from the factory (I dont know which type). But I would assume that it is just going to be the standard oil. If you are getting a bike that is coming in, you can specify that you want the synth. I can ask the service dept. when I go in today.


Craig
Buell Cycle Center
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Blaster420
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Craig,
Thanks, I was just curious with all the newness hype. I am getting that nice little Blue Firebolt over there, yeah that one with the HOLD tag.
Ben

P.S. Could you go over and tell it that I have cleaned out the garage for it and that there are a lot of people itching to meet it. lol
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Mikej
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Isn't it in the factory instructions what oil to use at dealer prep? I mean they jump all over home mechanics and void warranties for stuff, I would assume the factory would specify what oil to add to a new freshly uncrated bike. I'd be very surprised if they don't specify what lubricant to use.

I'll just shut up now and go to my corner.
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Spike
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

According to the techs here, the new bikes come with fluids already in them. Maybe they're setup differently for different regions?

Mike L.
Ray Price HD/Buell
'99 M2 Cyclone (sold)
'04 XB12R Firebolt (coming soon, hopefully)
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Dmuz
Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My '03 XB9S-L came with conventional oil... I can't imagine they'll change for the 12s. You're bike needs to NOT have synthetic to be properly broken in over the first miles. Switch to synth after one or two oil changes once you've broken in.
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Kevyn
Posted on Sunday, July 27, 2003 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why wouldn't a synthetic oil rated SG with the JAPO MA certification be alright for a break-in period?
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M2cyclone00
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

H-D has stated that you do not need conventional oil for break in. Synthentic is fine. That is a misconception that you need conventional for breaking in an engine. That rumor came about due to a lack of research and testing from the manufacturers. H-D was previously stating to use conventional oil only (break in & at all times) only because they had not done enough research to state an opinion.
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"only because they had not done enough research to state an opinion"

Or because they did not yet have a Harley-branded synthetic to market yet. Perhaps, ya think?
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M2cyclone00
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why do research if you don't intend to market your own? Both would be the most correct answer.
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Signguy
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can break an engine in with either. BMW's, Corvettes and many exotic cars all come with synthetic right from their factories.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can, but I don't know why you would.

On new vehicle break ins, I like to run the thing about 500 miles, do an oil and filter change to get the big chunks out.

The extra cost of synthetic is pretty high for just putting something in to be pulled back out after a very short period of pretty gentle driving.

After that though, no question, I would never run anything but full synthetic in an aircooled motorcycle.
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Dmuz
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Great input guys... thx
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