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Sidefx
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So after looking for over a year I finally purchased one last night. Its a 2003 lightning with 2200 miles. The bike has been stored for 2 years so I talked him down to $2800. The bike ran ok at his place and I even turned it off and restarted it a couple times and revved it up. I was thinking 2 year old gas would not make it run the best. After getting it home and off the truck now it will not start im guessing the gas again... Is there a easy way to drain the tank down?
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and fouled plugs they don't like to be started and reved and shut down
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Firebolt32
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gotta pull the fuel filter (I think) to drain the fuel. Or start sucking...
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

turn it upside down
siphon probably the best
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The4ork
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

add some fuel stabil, it will bring the gas back to life, two years insnt so bad. just go easy on it for a while...
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Bads1
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

First,you fouled the front cylinder plug. As stated you cannot rev these engines and then shut them down. Second... drain the gas or siphon as much out as possible and put fresh in.
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Put in 92 or 93 octane for best results.
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And change your profile info.
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Slomo
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You don't have to pull the pump just take off the back wheel and
take out the either screw from the fuel pump all the fuel will come out. Make sure to disconnect the fuel pump electronics.
Btw make sure your ready to catch all that gas.lol
Unfortunately siphon does not work well because of internal baffles.
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Captcaz
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just pulled the left side rider peg bracket to get to the drain plug, and used a sheet of aluminum foil to make a funnel/slide to catch the gas coming out and direct it to the gas can.
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Xenox
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Brad nice score!

BTW , if anyone knows is there a way to reuse or refurbish that drain plug?

FSM wants to see it replaced but iirc @ $30 a pop , I think turning the bike upside down is a viable action, ok or siphon ,fresh plus seafoam or whatnot........ =)

(Message edited by xenox on May 09, 2010)
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think you may be able to jumper the fuel pump to on, and let it run into a suitable can. Pull the high pressure hose off the fuel rail (make sure the pressure has dropped before doing this) then locate the fuel pump relay and pull it. Jumper the two contacts needed to run the pump and let it drain. Alternate might be to simply turn the bike to run with key and switch, not sure if it will continue to run so you might need to make the jumper.

Now if you choose to run the fuel pump, might as well dump a few ounces of SeaFoam in the tank first to clean out the fuel pump and tank. Just remember that this is fuel, so keep a decent fire extinguisher handy and try to kill the pump at the first sign of trouble so you don't add additional fuel to a fire or spill.

Not sure how many gallons per hour we are talking, but I would expect a long time which might require an additional power source like a good boost/charger plugged into the wall.
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Whitetrashxb
Posted on Sunday, May 09, 2010 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A 2200 mile XB bike for $2800 sounds like a seal to me good job on that
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Ion_man_87
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

congrats on the purchase! I just bought one a month ago (and wrecked a week ago). You will not be disapointed once you get everything situated
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Sidefx
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 05:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's a crappy iphone pic of the bike... but first order is getting the bike to run and getting some 7 year old tires off it.

Forgot to say that it has the buell race muffler also.

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Fast1075
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 07:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Race cans are illegal in Ohio...send it to me immediately!!!! ; )....Sweet find....welcome to the madness...
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Sidefx
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

haha nice try...

for a oil change what should i use in the swingarm and primary? i have seen 20w50 for the engine and gear oil 75w90 for the primary but have seen people using 20w50 in both. Im confused...
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Faseljd
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

do not use gear oil
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B00stzx3
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Congrats!!!

For primary fluid, formula+ or syn3. Some say Mobil 1 75-90 but dunno about that one.

Thread discussing it
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/188860.html?1144933845
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Greg_e
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I put Mobil 1 V-Twin in both, so far so good.

FYI Race cans are illegal in probably every state since they are not EPA certified for road use. Hopefully they have the race ECM installed and took a little time to tune it.

I would worry less about the rubber and more about getting it running. Probably better put new plugs in there and drain the fuel before trying to start it again. Might be worth getting it registered and plates so you can take it for a small journey next time you do get it started.
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Nightripper
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

run mbile 1 v twin oil in primary and engine 20w-50w. Autozone has it cheap , and advance auto has the plugs for the buell cheap champions work great.
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Greg_e
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would suggest going straight to the Iridium plugs. I have yet to foul them even when doing all the stuff everyone says not to do.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I fouled a pair of Iridium plugs. Temps below 30. Battery was probably a little low. But they did foul bad enough I had to pull them.
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My bike looked like that once upon a time ; )
Nice find!
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Sidefx
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i was planing on working on it with the upcoming rain... so i cant just let it run in the garage without fouling the plugs?!?!
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would suggest going straight to the Iridium plugs. I have yet to foul them even when doing all the stuff everyone says not to do.

Trust me.... they can and will. You have been lucky.


Sidefx,

You really should ride the bike to get it up to temp before changing oil. Letting it sit and run..... just really not the same.
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Greg_e
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmmm... I idle mine all the time in the garage, watched it smoke for about 15 minutes after doing the header wrap. Must have a lean idle setting that I'll probably need to fix, could be the 10% alcohol fuel doing it too.
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Sidefx
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the oil will be another day its next to impossible to find 20w50 at the auto part stores around here... im going to try a couple shops around here if not i know my dad has some royal purple...
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B00stzx3
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Greg_e, smoking is normal for after header wrap. Thats it "curing", supposed to happen bro

@Sidefx, you can always order online dude. Check Americansportbike, Battley or any of the other forum sponsors they'll hook ya up with watcha need.
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Greg_e
Posted on Monday, May 10, 2010 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Advance auto says they have the Mobil 1 V-Twin at three stores:
In Stock - 5737 N DIXIE DR Map it
In Stock - 3969 SALEM AVE. Map it
In Stock - 434 WOODMAN DRIVE Map it


It's $10.00 a quart which is not really great since you'll need 4 quarts for a complete change. Autozone should also be able to look and see where they have it near you, probably the same $10 each.

Also you might look around for Rotella 6T (or T6) which is a full synthetic and Walmart recently got this "new" formulation in for about $20-$25 per gallon. If they had this in stock when I changed the oil I probably would have used it in mine.

Everyone says to stay away from the Fram filters.
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Sidefx
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 05:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah i saw the v-twin oil, really didnt fell like spending that much. There is a part store local that has a bunch of royal purple products im calling today for some 20w50. Do you guys just use the car oil?

And dont worry I have never used a fram filter I got the supertech.
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Sidefx
Posted on Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well i got all the gas out my undoing the drain plug on the fuel pump. i got some new spark plugs in.... what a pain in the butt there are really buried in there. But it starts and runs just the idle is really low 700-800 i would say. where is the adjustment for that?
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