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Migs16
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so im debating on investing into getting some nice low bars, hids, and some levers, buttt i would like some more performance i want some more torque. i have an 03 xb9s its already has some nice body upgrades but i want some more power. what is a cheap way to get more torque before i go and get some lights, bars, and levers..
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Nillaice
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what is a cheap way to get more torque?

you can get more torque, but it's gonna cost ya.
re-gearing might be the cheapest option. it won't actually make any more torque, but it'll sure feel like it!

a re-mapped/race ECM will put some #'s down. a couple hundo from Erik Buell Racing
a micron system would be nice to find. again, not cheap.
several on here have fitted turbo's to an XB. pretty serious $-wise.
nitrous is always an option, but it can have detrimental effects.

and lastly; ever heard of the "white wire mod"? free, but results are argueable.


don't hesitate to get the HID's from DDMtuning.com less than a new set of conventional sylvania lightbulbs, so there'll be enuff left over for motor mods.
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Delta_one
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

breather re-route also very cheep way to get a bit more low end response, also arguable but for the money why not?
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B00stzx3
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Exhaust, open airbox, breather reroute, ECM

I can testify open airbox will open that mofo up
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The only cheap way to get more torque is to get rear ended by a semi.

You can get some minor gains with the ECM/intake/exhaust, but nothing really worth mentioning. You could tear apart the motor and do a 1150 or 1340cc setup.
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Sloppy
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is your purpose - an engine with more power or a faster bike; the two are different.

If you want a faster bike, then invest in the rider, not the bike. Take a riding class (I highly recommend Keith Code's). I have seen bikes with HALF the power and 10 years less technology kick a$$ over the latest sportbikes.

If you want more power, then you first NEED to know how much you are willing to spend. Only then can a person recommend what performance mods to do.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

I have seen bikes with HALF the power and 10 years less technology kick a$$ over the latest sportbikes.




I have proven it time and time again on my Blast : )
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Migs16
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ok thanks alot u guys i guess i have alot on my plate then. i no i have an open airbox already which is cool. ive done the white wire mod already but i didnt really notice any difference.
i want more torque i dont mind about the top end. i was thinking like a chain conversion kit and then getting a bigger sprocket thats just like my first thought. any input on that??
ideally i would love to get just a bigger sprocket for my belt but i no those are very pricy so any input on that as well??
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Rc3094
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Find an XB12 motor to drop in the chassis.
There are several on ebay and craigslist for 800-900 plus shipping if you're not close to the seller.

Marginal increase in HP with substantial gain in torque.

Want more "felt" torque, put the primary gears/chain from your 9 into the 12.
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Migs16
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Want more "felt" torque, put the primary gears/chain from your 9 into the 12.



ok u lost me on this what is it??
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Doubled
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The 9 primaries are geared lower than the 12s. This will give you more low end power, but you will lose top end speed.
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He has a nine. Get an XB12.
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F22raptor
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Keep your '12s,I will smoke you with my '9,ALL DAY LONG....
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

Keep your '12s,I will smoke you with my '9,ALL DAY LONG....




Lol! Boys and their air cooled toys : )
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Killroy134
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What about putting a XB12 crankshaft assembly in it?

Here is a forum on the topic: http://badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/37 7171.html?1253972306

The XB12 stroke would give you around a 20% gain in torque. There is no doubt that 14 extra ft-lbs is a large gain. 1st and 2nd gear power wheelies yeah!
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1_mike
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Delta -

The breather change will give more power...........in what universe?

Mike
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F22raptor
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy,as Eric Buell once said "All engines are air-cooled" Think about it!!! And if YOU have to make-up for lack of riding skill with horespower,that's O.K!!!
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lol! Boys and their air cooled toys : )

One of the things I love about my little 9, is the way it embarrasses the liquid cooled gang ; )

Honestly Migs, if you can afford it, upgrade the suspension, and take a class or two.
That combo right there will make you F.A.S.T fast!
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Migs16
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ok i think im really gona look into the riding class for now. because all my extra cash is going to my 430 speeding ticket i got on my little 9! but i have some things in my for little power upgrades.
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Tommygun
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone know of a good riding class in MN? I am about 60 miles north of the twin cities...
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Gunut75
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The breather change will give more power...........in what universe?
I think the reason it works is that there is more room in the combustion chamber for fuel mix, that is normally occupied by the splooge being dumped in there. I didn't get more power, but a smoother throttle response.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What mean "exterional"? : ?
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Best way to improve power-to-weight ratio is leave the bike alone and go on a diet/exercise program.

Best way to get more speed out of your bike is to take a track school.
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Sloppy
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Keith Code's class are among the best and are a great way to transition to "open track" days.

http://www.superbikeschool.com/
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+10 On Keith Code's Superbike School!
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Migs16
Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 03:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ok did some research and breather re-route it is!
can someone please send me in the right direction to get the step by steps and if there is a video on it.
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, May 07, 2010 - 05:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This ought to help
http://www.kdfab.com/catchcaninstructions.htm
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