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Roysbuell
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

After getting home from my sunday ride I felt the frame on the right side and it was hot. Nothing new but it got me thinking since the fuel is in the frame does the fuel also get hot?
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Teeps
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



Roysbuell Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009
does the fuel also get hot?


Yep.
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Roysbuell
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Isn't this a bad thing?
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

American Sport Bike sells a kit that you can used to insulate the inside of the frame to prevent heating the fuel. Not sure how much of a problem it really is unless you are riding through a desert with 110+ heat and full sun.
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Vasiliy_ru
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I do not think that you have to worry about it.
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Roysbuell
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I live in South Texas where there is year round riding but my summer riding is limited to early morning or early evening. My rule is if it's too hot to ride in full gear, it's too hot to ride at all.
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If its too hot to ride in gear, you are wearing the wrong gear. : )
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Vasiliy_ru
Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rooysbuell: Do not ride in astronaut's gear. : )
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Calimari
Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My tank got hot enough today to burn my thigh, thought the 1125r would run cooler than my XB. Yay for the desert
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1_mike
Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The right side scoop will help.
It did on my XB12.
Been well over 100 degrees here in So. Cal. for a while now.
Not only does it help keep the rear cylinder cool, it also goes a long way in helping to keep the frame/fuel cooler.

Flame on detractors...!

Mike
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Kbaddict
Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Apparently you've never been to South texas Froggy. I feel ya Roy, I'm from South Texas also but I'm living in N.C. temporarily. Roads are way better for riding here.
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Roysbuell
Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy, I have mesh pants with armor that keep me cooler then jeans. The jacket is also mesh with armor and once I get a good sweat going it actually cools me better then just a t-shirt.

Visiliy, I would love to ride in an astronaut suit. Those things are climate controlled. Riding gear with air conditioning, now there is an idea!

Kbaddict, the only good thing about where I am at is that I am very close to the Gulf of Mexico and it says 5-10 degrees cooler then being further inland.

I am thinking of getting one of those cool vests that you soak in water, but other then that I don't have other options other then just staying out of the midday heat. Yes, I loose a bit of riding mid-summer but I can ride all year long!
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ive always heard cooler fuel is worth more HP. The frame on the XB is really sweet but its also a big heatsink. I think you can minimize it though with a handful of products people sell. I think that heat barrier stuff the American sport bike sells would cut down on alot of heat.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Texas? Nope, but I have done Florida in the summer. Anyway, my Aerostitch Roadcrafter one piece handled it fine. What I like to do is take a gallon size zip lock bag, poke a few holes in it, and then stick it in the back pocket/vent. The ice will melt cooling you off. After a few hours, hit up 7-11 and fill up with more ice from the soda machine. Depending on the location they will either let you do it for free or charge you for a soda. Usually buying something else like a soda helps you likelihood of getting the free ice : )

Johnny, I have heard the same. I have also heard that with N2O systems, the biggest gains come from the additional coldness, not the actual gas. (No clue if its actually true)
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Blake
Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been riding all Summer here in Texas. I don't know what the fuss is about the heat. I've not noticed it.

Y'all do know that there's a 103 HP engine between your legs, yes?
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Blake
Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy,

N2O adds a LOT of additional oxygen, which allows the addition of a LOT more fuel/gasoline. That is where the lion's share of power increase is created.
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Roysbuell
Posted on Monday, September 28, 2009 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake, what part of the lone star state are you from? If you can't tell it's hot outside certainly you can feel the heat from the internal combustion engine sitting between your legs.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My User Profile shows my hometown, Kilgore, in the great state of Texas.

I'm well accustomed to the summertime heat in Texas, even at the racetrack. I've yet to be bothered by any heat from the big Uly. I've not noticed it. Maybe too busy riding.

I was bothered by heat from the '97 Buell Cyclone with it's OEM flat black headers. Header wrap solved that.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good to know about the N2O, thanks. : )
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Fast1075
Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nitrous is FUN!!!! : )
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Kbaddict
Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kilgore is also up by Dallas. I grew up outside of Austin and the weather there is great. when you get south of San Antonio things start to heat up. Come down to the valley during the months of July and August. You'll see what we are talking about. It's flat, dry and dusty, and the wind blows 15-20mph everyday except if feels like someone turned a blow dryer on.
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Roysbuell
Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yea south Texas heat is no joke. Apart from trying to stay cool you need to remember to hydrate your body by drinking lots of liquids. When I work outside in severe heat sometimes Gatorade is not enough and I drink Pedialyte. Opening a car door in mid-summer heat is like checking the turkey in the oven.

Kbaddict- I saw you were from the Kingsville area. Not too far from me (At least not by Texas standards) and you have the same bike I have so next time your in the area let me know and we will try and set up a cruise.
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Kbaddict
Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, for sure. I might be moving back here in the near future, we'll see.
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Bartimus
Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In the 115+ heat of the Phoenix, Arizona summer, I've recorded temps on the right side of my Uly as high as 145 F.
Average is around 130 F. I know mine has burned my right leg often enough that I added a half inch of firewall insulation the the outside of the frame, as my custom, "poor man's Uly comfort kit".
It worked well. : )
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Bromanowski
Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

While I have my bike torn down this winter I'm going to line the inside of the frame and the bottom of the airbox with some DEI heat reflective material. It's cheap and I'll already be in there so it can't hurt.
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Black
Posted on Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well,

I live in a hotter place than any of you...right outside Washington DC. The amount of hot air here keeps things really toasty all the time! I normally keep a fork with me so I can tell when my right thigh is done, especially on my X-1. I have to defer to Blake, when you have a 1200CC internal combustion engine between your legs plus the exhaust system, things get hot. I might try an insulation kit some day though, if anybody can recommend something that is really worth the effort of installing. Thanks.
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Frito
Posted on Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Johnnymceldoo sez

Ive always heard cooler fuel is worth more HP.

Back in the day, I did a little racing using small block Chevys so I read everything I could about Smokey Yunick and his performance methods. As I recall he determined that for every 7 degrees you lowered the temperature of the intake charge you got a 1% increase in HP. Is it a coincidence that almost all new cars and trucks draw air from outside the engine compartment as opposed to using underhood air as in the 70's and earlier?
That's as near to free HP as you can get.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I love those ebay "cold air" kits that are a 1" piece of tube and a K&N filter that hangs right next to the exhaust header! : D
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