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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have an XB9SX and had two air boxes covers (for a total of three including the original) replaced under warranty due to them cracking. Buell changed the material makeup just before I received the second replacement and it worked like a charm.....until today. I pulled into a gas station to get fuel. When I tipped the nozzle toward the fuel inlet about 4-5 oz of gas poured on the tank cover. I grabbed some paper towels and used my Plexus to clean the cover. Just as I had it clean and I was still looking at the cover I watched cracks start appearing in the cover right before my eyes. I was rather shocked and puzzled. I guess if I could have hit the hole all would have been well.
Side note: It was warm today (about 90) and we had been running hard so the bike was hot so that probably contributed to the problem. I know that gas is meant to go into the tank and not on it but I thought I would warn anyone who might be a ham fisted jackass like myself.


After this I stopped to have a soda and a brownie at a local store and left my jacket hanging on the bike. It was out of the way no issues but when I came back outside the jacket was on the exhaust. Score: Exhaust I /Jacket 0

Jacket is repairable, but when I got home I noticed that the shifting pad on my boots is coming off, and the stitching in the securing strap is coming loose.

Then the rubber on my new Buell Traction foot pegs started spinning on the peg. I like the pegs so I am going to use gorilla snot to try and secure them.

Don't misunderstand, I'm not bitching about the above issues. I made it home just fine after a run of idiocy on my part and a little bit of bad luck, but I do want those of you with the translucent plastics to know what gas on hot plastics can result in.

I still love my Buell maybe even more, you know scars add character (I'm thinking its a sickness)
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V8basil
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Great post! Great sense of humor over a bad day, we should all be that positive!
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Wantxbr
Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This was supposed to happen Friday.
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Midknyte
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 04:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As a rule, I always grab a paper towel and hold it to the nozzle, to and from the bike...

You've got my sympathies...
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 04:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When I picked up my bike the dealer made a big deal about protecting the translucent plastic from gas, and/or its fumes.

They mentioned the plastic will melt with petroleum products.

Ever since then I have been overly careful when fueling.
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Teddagreek
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I didn't know cracked plastics was a warranty Item...


Damn..........


You think that would be covered under my extended warranty...
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Josh_
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

extended warranties don't cover much. On my S3 it specifically mentioned not covering any body parts...
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Bads1
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If it was me and knowing this is a issue. I'd have the parts cleared and the problem is fixed. Gas would nolonger be a problem.
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Chippy
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

could you post a snap of these cracks?
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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sure, need to charge the camera and then I will post pics tomorrow evening.
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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bads1

I would think that the chemicals in the clear would also pose an issue for the finish of the plastics. Even using the wrong cleaner can cause hazing.
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Jumpinjewels
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I also had my plastics replaced under warranty. My hubby noticed on both the air box and fly screen there were cracks at the mounting holes. I took it to the dealer and he definitely said it was under warranty. So new plastics for me.

We're also very careful when we put gas in the tank.
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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


pic 1
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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


pic 2
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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


pic 3



Kind of difficult to get a clear shot with my old camera but you get the idea.
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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2008 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I thought about this a little bit today.

If I remember correctly I don't think any of us that have the buell tank bag have had any cracks.

I think the nylon mounting hardware prevents the airbox cover bolts from over tightening.
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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I actually have rubber washers with a spacer that prevents over tightening. Buell sent them to the dealer after the second one cracked. It did great until I screwed up last weekend with the gas. So your thinking seems like it would be right in line with what Buell had as a solution.
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Sam_07
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the same cracks on my xb with 1800 miles. Dealer ordered an airbox cover under warranty.
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Chippy
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ahhh i see. i may also be entitled to a free airbox cover! yesssssss!
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Bombero
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's a bad day, Speed, sorry to hear it.

So let me get this right - If I have cracks around the bolt holes on my airbox cover or flyscreen - that should be covered under warranty?
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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes it should.
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bads1

I would think that the chemicals in the clear would also pose an issue for the finish of the plastics. Even using the wrong cleaner can cause hazing.




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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Crow tastes good.

If a clear coat would act as a guard against fumes then it would make we curious as to why Buell would not implement it in production process to save cost in warranty.
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Actually those parts were painted by a friend of mine. He did these for Buell. Erik contacted me via cell phone and I got him in touch with Will,my painter. Those bike were done for Queensryche and VH1's save the music. Two complete bikes in 48 hours. If they are cleared though half your problems are gone.







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Corporatemonkey
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 04:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just a reminder to those who do get their plastics replaced.

Keep the rubber X. Plenty of folk here are dying to get a hold of one.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The formulation of the plastics has evolved over the model run.
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Jettdawg
Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"The formulation of the plastics has evolved over the model run." - in a good way? Are newer ones more resistant to gas and cracking?
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Nuerburgringer
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Objective opinion: That translucent material appears to be junk. Using plastics around the fuel filler that are THAT vulnerable to fuel? I'd call that a conspicuous design flaw. I'm amazed.
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