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Firebolt32
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-Monster-600- 620-750-900-1000-S2R-ST2-S4R-SIGNALS_W0QQitemZ3202 46037046QQcmdZViewItem

They are garbage as far as using them as running lights. I bought them after putting my bike down a few weeks ago. I figured I'd wire them up to run. I went to Leesburg this past weekend. It's about a hour and change ride. I get to the motel and the black housings are starting to melt. Don't buy them...go with the regular blinker. I ended up cutting the second filament led. Oh well...
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Midknyte
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have them and yes, I have a little bit of deformation on one.
I value having running lights though. I've been hit and its no fun.
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Firebolt32
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll take some pics when it's light out. A little bit of deformation is not the word. It looks like I threw them in the oven and broiled them.
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Midknyte
Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well that does suck. You been on the horn to the seller?

I have a couple of hours on mine and I have just a small crease mark where the metal reflector touches the plastic.







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Stevedplumber
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i bought a set like those from Chaparral and have had no issue to speak of.

https://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chaparral/product _family.asp?family%5Fid=10658&gift=False&mscssid=3 A35DCAD464347FC8A4787FF7481AACF
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Midknyte
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i bought a set like those from Chaparral and have had no issue to speak of.

And you never should. That links to a set of single filament signals.

These other ones are dual filament and function as running lights, always on, and therefore a little bit hot.
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Midknyte
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Firebolt'

I think I might have tripped over a way to make our stock signals operate at running lights w/o relays.

More later...
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Midknyte
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...or not.

Just talked it out with a bud that knows more about electrical resistance/current calculations than I can remember. Probably not a good idea.

As you were. Carry on.
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Nik
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think I might have tripped over a way to make our stock signals operate at running lights w/o relays.


I'm going to be experimenting with doing something similar this weekend, although I'll probably be using relays. What's so bad about relays?
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Midknyte
Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nuthin wrong with relays. Just an extra part to stuff into an already small space...
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Nik
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hmm... I put some thought into it and diodes could be used instead of relays... But you would need 2 diodes per signal (possibly just per side, I'm not sure how the grounds are configured between the front and rear), as opposed to 1 relay per side. Both have their advantages and disadvantages as far as space and power is concerned.

Then again I'm a MechE and not a sparky so I could be completely wrong...
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Firebolt32
Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I never took the pics...but its pretty much what is shown above plus some. The seller is unreachable. I've left numerous emails and nothing. I just cut them. I'll just use them as normal blinkers. I pulled my stockers because I put the bike down and snapped one off. Hell just tonight I was walking by the bike and my shirt cut the back blinker and ripped it right off. I had to gorilla glue the damn thing back together. $12.00 a pop. Guess that's what you get.
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Retrittion
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 04:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cramped space? In our 'bolts back end? Nawww, see you didn't get the memo -- you are supposed to take the trunk box out and then you will have plenty of space!

If you guys figure out an always on solution that will work for blinkers let me know, I like to be seen too!
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Firebolt32
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I no longer have the trunk box. I was so pissed that the blinker housings were melting that I completely destroyed the box pulling it out. I have tons of room now.
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I dunno. If mine get worse I might drop some coin on a set of these. They're really sharp looking, but rather expensive though...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MOTORCYCLE-ALUMINUM -LED-TURN-SIGNAL-ASSEMBLIES-NEW-LEDS_W0QQcmdZViewI temQQcategoryZ35575QQihZ012QQitemZ220229789450QQtc Zphoto
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Sath
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Midknyte, is that the kind you have to put a relay or something in with it?
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 05:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think the only thing they may require is a load balancing resistor on the turn signal line.
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWt4HLymo00

from post
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/341247.html
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

More LED sigs here - download their catalog for better listing and larger pics

http://www.shockracing.com/index.php?main_page=pro duct_info&cPath=2&products_id=213

No mention if any of theirs are dual circuit running light variety. Waiting for an answer from them...
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Firebolt32
Posted on Friday, May 02, 2008 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Obviously you get what you pay for. I can bet those won't melt like the cheapies I have on now.
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Midknyte
Posted on Saturday, May 03, 2008 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes, sometimes you do...
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Update. Mine are getting worse. Junk. Do not buy.
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Firebolt32
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I put a dispute in with ebay. I would like the seller to either replace them or give the money back that I paid. I doubt this will happen though.
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Sath
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Firebolt, let us know what happens with the ebay thing. I also bought them but haven't put them on yet.
Thanks for the info guys
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Firebolt32
Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just don't wire them to run, just blink. They are sweet looking but obviously don't do the job right. I'll keep you guys up to date.
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Firebolt32
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is all I got...

From Seller: Tanya Crew on 5/9/2008 15:39 PDT
If you have received any item that is unsatisfactory, please include a copy of this email and return the item.
Moto Gear
23182 Alcalde # H
Laguna Hills CA 92653

Anyone else who is using these post to her that they are crap. She is wanting me to pay the shipping? No, send me new blinkers as well as a shipping label so I can send your P.O.S blinkers back to you.
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Packrat
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For $13.00 you ACTUALLY thought you were going to get a quality product???? dude!!!
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Firebolt32
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL....I know, I know. I'm just trying to get a bone thrown my way for a change. I like the blinker so I'm trying to get the seller to replace them so they don't look like crap.
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Midknyte
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 12:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The stock blinkers are only about $13 or so...
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Midknyte
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm returning to play with modding the stock signals to use a dual filament 1157 bulb.

Deet's in original thread

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=3842&post=1146715#POST1146715
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