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Dennis355
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 08 1125R . Have not used it for a while but checked the battery and it was dead. Would not take a charge so I got a new battery. Installed it and took a short ride and in three days it drained the new battery. Recharged and hooked up and a friend said to hook up pos. terminal and then put a voltmeter between neg. terminal and ground wire . Should show no volts but it showed 4.9. I know this means something is drawing power even with the key in off position. Anyone have any thoughts on where to start looking ? I have no accessories hooked up.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does your Instrument Cluster show the gear you are in? If not then you have an original 2008 IC, they are known to have a parasitic draw.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There was also a bug in older ECMs that if you used the key to shut the bike off instead of the kill switch, the ECM would slowly kill the battery like you described.
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Dennis355
Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the original instrument cluster and an Erik Buell Racing race ecm tuned for the race exhaust and was told to disconnect the bank angle sensor.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2011 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you just gave the answer the original IC.
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Jules
Posted on Monday, October 17, 2011 - 07:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check the s/w version of your IC and post it up. As has been mentioned before the early ones suffered from parasitic draw - doing exactly what you describe.
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Jules
Posted on Monday, October 17, 2011 - 07:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is the basics from TT396 that relates to IC draw:

TT396 – November 24, 2008 – 1125R Instrument Cluster Changes

1125R Instrument Cluster Software Changes
Buell 1125R models with symptoms of excessive battery draw while
parked may require an instrument cluster replacement. A software
issue was identified that can keep the security system awake,
causing excessive key-off battery draw. The affected clusters were
installed on 1125R models produced from October 29, 2007 to May
16, 2008.

If you are diagnosing a parasitic draw complaint, complete normal
charging system checks, and key-off draw tests, to verify system
function. It can be very difficult to verify a draw because the issue is
likely to be intermittent. Keep in mind that ALL batteries if not
charging are discharging. Be sure to distinguish between normal
battery drain over time, and abnormal parasitic draw.
After verifying that the vehicle’s charging system and battery are
within specification, it will be necessary to verify the instrument
cluster software level.

Early instrument clusters only display the software level on the rear of
the module. (see image below) A software version of 5.1.1 includes
upgrades to prevent the abnormal draw and should NOT be replaced
for draw related issues.

If you are unable to locate a draw on the vehicle and the cluster
software version is below 5.1.1, i.e. 4.1, 4.2, 4.3….., the instrument
cluster should be replaced.

Later instrument clusters allow you to verify software level on-board
via the diagnostic menu. To get into the diagnostic menu, key-on
while holding the Toggle and Mode buttons simultaneously. A quick
reminder though that if the instrument cluster is new and has not yet
been powered up for 30 minutes to synchronize, you can NOT enter
the diagnostic menu. The last screen of Live Data items will be the
software level.

Inaccurate Low Fuel Warning Light
Verify the software version as well if you are diagnosing inaccurate
low fuel warning lights. Issues were identified with the Software
Version 5.1.1 and 6.0 that could lead to a low fuel light coming on
intermittently with adequate fuel levels.

Follow the Diagnostic Flow Chart in the Electrical Diagnostic Manual
for the correct diagnostic path. Note: there is a misprint in both the
MY08 & MY09 electrical diagnostic menu for the Low Fuel Light
Always On flow chart. When measuring the resistance between
terminals D and A of the fuel pump connector [86B], the resistance
measured should be between 850-1400 ohms.

(Message edited by jules on October 17, 2011)
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