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Lastonetherebuys
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok i thought that if i posted on something that was in the archives that it would bump it back to the active page but guess not I'm wondering if any one knows where the aux power circut runs haven't had a chance to trace it but i want to wire my heated vest connector into the aux power circut but i want it to come from under the seat

this is the archived thread that i mentioned above

http://badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290431/ 522414.html?1261503407
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Jules
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The manual says relay 4 is the "Auxiliary" relay..

Given the socket is called "Auxiliary Connector" I'd suggest it's safe to assume that it is powered from the relay.

The relays are under the seat so that ought to give you what you need...

(Message edited by Jules on March 07, 2010)
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Jules
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just looked at the wiring diagram an yes indeed the wires run up to relay 4 which is in turn powered by fuse 3 (although I think there is a typo in the manual as it says 15/21 not 14/20 for the fuse connectors)

In theory if you tap off of pin 87 on Relay 4 you'll get what you need..
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't run your heated gear off the aux circuit, the draw on a jacket alone is near the max load (10 amps). You are best off connecting directly to the battery, and running the wire down the subframe out hole in the plastics where your legs rest.
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Ccryder
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree w/ Froggy 100%. You should be using a heat controller anyway.

Get your power from the battery. If you think you might forget to turn it off, you can always use a relay controlled by ignition switched hot wire (ie: parking light).
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My heated suit automatically turns off after I walk a few feet away from my bike. I always forget to unplug it at gas stations, it makes the *yoink* sound when the cord breaks away : D
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2010 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My suit behaves the same as Froggy's.

Once unplugged, the only thing the battery is firing is the little LED going "flash-flash". No load on the circuit if there's no clothing plugged in.

I have all mine and Kim's wired direct to the battery, and no issues.
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Timxb9s
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I plug right into the battery tender plug.
Heatroller in pocket, good to go.
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Jules
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 07:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's a good idea... I'd never have thought of that..
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you use the battery tender plug, you have to change the fuse. Put in at least a 10A, preferably 15.

Tender leads come with 2.5A IIRC.
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Timxb9s
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Forgot to mention that, sorry.
I put a 15A in it.
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Lastonetherebuys
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks for the help between the time that i posted and now i had a chance to pull my seat and look into it further and i decided to run it directly off the battery not like i can really walk away from the bike and leave it on seeing as I'm tethered to it. i put it under the pas seat so when i need it pop the pillion off and feed the wire out and when i'm done with it tuck it away out of sight
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Ccryder
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tuck mine at the left front of the seat when not in use. When I need it I just pull back the front lip and pull out 2-3" and plug in. I did go to the coaxial connector for my Gerbings a number of years ago. I have a battery tender plug that sticks out slightly from my tail section at the little air scoop.

Later
Neil S.
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Syonyk
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought you weren't supposed to wire anything directly to the battery or it would make the ECU unhappy about something.

Or is that just so the ECU can turn off the aux port if the voltage is low?
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Ccryder
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's not a question of making the ECM happy, like on the newer BMWs, it's a question of having enough power for the items you are running. The Accy plug up front is controlled by the ECM. If it senses the battery voltage is too low it will cut off the accy plug, the accy plug is also not powered up until after the engine is running.

Being the responsible riders we all are, we realize that it is our responsibility not to attach too many electrical components to our M/C otherwise the charging system won't be able to keep up. That being said I run a few extra electrical "goodies" on my 08' 1125 without any issues but, I do keep the rpm's up and most of my trips are 25-75 miles long.

Later
Neil S.
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Syonyk - You can do as many goodies as you want right off the battery. The advantage is, you keep everything on its own separate line so if something happened and say your heated jacket shorts out, you don't lose your GPS, cameras, and heated grips. I recommend people use the under flyscreen accessory line if possible, because the ECM controls it and will prevent battery drain. It is also nice that it turns off when the bike is off, so you don't need to manually keep turning everything on and off.
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Syonyk
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ah, interesting. Thanks, good to know. I've run into charging systems before that really don't like drains straight off the battery without them "knowing about it" - it looks to the charger like a short in the battery and they get cranky.

Glad to know I can run stuff straight off the battery if needed.
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