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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could a person that has an 07' and ECMSpy download their ECM code to a file and then make it available to others (free and electronically over the internet ) who also have ECMSpy and want to reflash their 06' ECM ???
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Daveymac
Posted on Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes please, Fetch maps and save to a file.
Your suppose to do that any way, before you mess with anything or make changes.
Just in case you need to put it back to stock.
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 01:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I finally get my bike back tomorrow and will have my ECMSpy cable finish this weekend. I can save a copy of my map and make it available to those who want it. Mine is an '06 that is flashed to '07 if that works for you.
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Chas1969
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Me too!

Chas
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Glenn
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi,

I have used ECMSpy and like it. I also bought VDSTS and I get inconsistent connections to my old laptop, not so with ECMSpy.

I downloaded my ECM data for my 2007 and can provide it for use too.

I was wondering about getting a race ECM download and uploading it to my stock 2007. Anyone done this yet?

Thanks
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Tq_freak
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone have the links to were I can get the parts to build the cable to connect to my laptop?
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Torque,
I PM'd you the info.
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Skrobe
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I too would be interested in obtaining the ECM data maps for an 07 to compare them to my 06. I purchased the VDSTS and have the same experience as Glenn has had - inconsistent connections. ECMSpy works better for me as well. The ability to save the stock maps is indispensable. Software that I paid $200 for should work better than software I got for free.
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Tq_freak
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Electraglider - thanx a lot, thats going to be a big help. Turns out we have some of the dustch connectors here at work so I might have to aquire a few for "testing"
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Bobbuell1961
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

eglide, any chance you could send any of that love this way?
thanks in advance.Bob
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Gugnheim
Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ditto Eglide, about the cable schematics Danke!
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is the cable: http://www.mouser.com/search/ProductDetail.aspx?R= TTL-232Rvirtualkey62620000virtualkey626-DLP-TTL232 R

Here is the plug kit:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DEUTSCH-4-PIN-DT-CO NNECTOR-KIT-18-16-AWG-CRANS-MSD_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ categoryZ107062QQihZ016QQitemZ260155458742QQtcZpho to

The pinout is (numbers as printed on the back side of the plug):

1 - orange (ECM receive, Rx)
2 - black (Ground)
3 - yellow (ECM transmit, Tx)
4 - n/c


Anyone that is not comfortable building them, contact me. What is costs me on average to build them is about $33 in parts and shipping to me then I would have to ship to you. I could build them for $40 with Priority shipping to you if interested. Not looking to make money, just help some people out.

(Message edited by jmhinkle on October 04, 2007)
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Adamd
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

one more to the list of race ecm leeching : D
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Packdog
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just ordered the parts to build a cable.

Once I get it built, I have a race ecm and an unmodified '06 ecm (U.S. spec) that I can grab the maps for.

Is there some particular place people are posting this collection of maps?

Does anyone know for sure if the race map will work on the original ecm? I ask this because of the race ecm not having the ability to use the servo.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BobBuell and Gugnheim
I PM'd you a copy of email I got from dbosh. It's what I PM'd to tq_freak. It should get you going.
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good question on the server space. Any one have a place we can host them at? I guess we can do email for now, but it would be nice to have a dedicated space for the files to chose from.
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got two orders for cables. Anyone else need one? I'll be making another parts order tonight. They will be ready for shipping to you mid next week.
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Jim_sb
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, please. Sign me up. Send me an email at Jim_SB@hotmail.com and we'll sort out the details.

Thanks,

Jim in Santa Barbara
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PM sent. Anyone else? PM me tonight. It'll be late before I make the order.
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got to get to bed. Forgot tomorrow morning was the first day of Balloon Fiesta. I have to take the kids to their school really early in the morning to watch the first wave launch from the school grounds. Drop me a pm if anyone else needs one. I'll make the order about 5:30 AM incase I get any late orders. Total is 4 at the moment. I believe 5 or more saves .15 on the cables!! Woo-Hoo Go tribe.
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Ishai
Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jmhinkle- just saw the post. Please add me to the list and pm me an adress to send you check or money order- your preference. thanks
Ishai
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Packdog
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 02:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Server space:

I will be able to post the maps here for a while. They should be available here for 3 or 4 months at least. I am working on finding (or making this) a permanent place for them.

http://www.primenumbers.org/buell/

If anyone has maps they want to have posted, just PM me and I'll post them when I get them. Otherwise it will have to wait until I get the parts and build my cable.
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1324
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joel,

I'd be interested in a cable for that price. I'll send you a PM.

Nick
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For those of you that are afraid of trying ECMSpy, there is nothing to fear. I am not a computer geek and I was able to get the necessary stuff downloaded and then get it to work.

I bought the cable from a fellow BadWebber "dbosh" for under $35 shipped to my door. If you have pay a bit more than that it is still well worth it.

I was able to verify that my timing was spot on and I reset the TPS. The dealer would of charged me more than that for just a TPS reset.

If you run into any problems or don't understand something then all you need to do is ask here on BadWeb. We shall get you through it, no sweat.

By the way, it is a really neat software that is easy to use.
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FYI,

I have been emailed a few times about a cheaper pin source, but they are not cheaper. My cables use the solid pins not the stamped ones. I chose those for the quality and lifespan they offer over the stamped ones. That place is $7.53 for solid pins. The Ebay source is only $7.00 That's is also why I had to go $40 to cover the additional cost and I use all Priority mail for shipping to me and to others to cut down on delivery times. It looks like everyone snagged up my Ebay deal though so I will be ordering from them anyways.
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Daveymac
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone "fetched & backed up the 07 fuel maps to a File.
BTW If some one will send me the file, I'll find a place to "Host It" for everyone to download.
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Tq_freak
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone have the 07' Race ecm maps yet?
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Tq_freak
Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have another question, Will the cable that came with VDSTS work with ECM spy? I am assumeing the answer is no since it hasn't been mentioned yet. I just havn't had time to test it my self yet.
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Jmhinkle
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe it was said that the VDSTS cable will work.

I also have my EEProm and fuel maps if anyone wants them. '06 ECM with '07 Reflash. The EEProm is only 2KB and the Fuel map is 3KB. Lot of stuff going on in there. I have to reread the FAQ on tuning to decipher it properly, but I have some big changes next to each other and I remember the tuning guide talked about eliminating those. What is everyones Cold Start Enrichment% at? Mine was around 164.
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Daveymac
Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 06:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jmhinkle, Wold you e-mail me your files.
dwm101857@yahoo.com
I,ll burn them to my ecm and see if works.
What the worst case that can happen ?
I have to buy another ecm (which I doubt).

My front map


front map


Rear map


rear map


(Message edited by daveymac on October 06, 2007)
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