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Cavi
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well took it for a ride on the local twisties with a local sportbike club. It did very good considering I was the only one not on either a Huyabusa or R1. I was pleasently suprised. I do not think the bike is as happy with me as I am with it, due to the fact that it was running between 5000 and 6500 most of the time.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think you were riding it per design intent.

I keep my spooled up pretty well in the twisties as well.

There have been many a bike spooked by a Uly in the twisties!
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Hooliken
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You should be able to carry considerably more corner speed than a Busa and should be able to transition faster than an R1. I know at full tilt my R1 was a handful to flip flop. You should be getting off slower speed corners better as well because we really need not be as worried about wheel spin in the lower gears as the big inlines.

But it is your ride so ride it like you choose.
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Bertotti
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There must be some crazy techniques to good twisty riding, of which I am clueless.
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Galloper
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What : ? no pics of the twisties? No pics of food? What kind of thread is this
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Packdog
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bertotti,

There really are no secrets to riding in the twisties. It really boils down to practice and timing. And of course, just the desire to do it.

I really like Nick Ienatch's book "Sport Riding Techniques" and am reading through it again right now. He devotes a full chapter to steering - using the body positioning, using the handlebars, loading the inside peg, and hugging the tank with the outside knee.

For me it's a matter of remembering to do them all and getting the timing down. I enjoy working on the exercises he describes when I ride.

I must emphasize that I only ride for my own enjoyment though, I'm not really serious about going faster - I just like to increase my enjoyment and safety through bettering my skills.
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Bertotti
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll check out that book. All my practice time is geared for slow riding.
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New12r
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Uly's Rule!


The Uly handles alot like my firebolt does, just in a more relaxed position. I cannot wait to give some stories when I got some ride time!
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a great time last week on the hairpin twisties of West Virginia. I was hanging off the bike in every turn. It was very Zen.

We had one section where I was being chased by a friend on an FJR, my wife on her R1150R, and some guy riding two up on an older Concours. After awhile the Concours passed me on a straightaway, and carried some seriously impressive speed through a turn. I let the carzy bastard go. I wasn't going to kill myself chasing him.
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L_je
Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

New12r, your profile pic belongs in the Buell Hall o' Fame. Sweeeeeeeet.

Compared to the bikes with clip-on bars that I've ridden, I'd classify the Uly as "Ultra-Neutral"; my MTS might actually fall into the "Hyper-Neutral" category.

I was on my friend's Duc ST3 and he was behind me, way behind, on my MTS. While his ST3 seemed super-focused on maintaining a straight line, to the point of nearly scaring the piss out of me, my friend was battling my MTS's apparent Directional Attention Deficit Disorder.

Both my Uly and MTS are real joys in the twisties. My only problem is that I can't ride both bikes side-by-side. [psssst, I like the Uly better]
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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Lee Parks book: "Total Control" is another great book for helping to refine your riding techniques.

I highly recommend the book to riders of any and all experience levels.
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Thespive
Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 02:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For those who want enjoyable riding that focuses on technique over speed, Google "The Pace." It is how I ride, and what I think our Buells excel at.

http://www.ridehsta.com/html/safety.htm

http://www.micapeak.com/info/thepace.html

--Sean
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 05:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got some track time doing a lead and follow behind Nick I. at Las Vegas international. (had I known he was doing the track session I would have brought my book for an autograph.) I found out very quickly that I am mediocre at best, and the ULY in the right hands is a cornering MONSTER. That is what sealed the deal for me. Bought my Buell within a week
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Hooliken
Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I found out very quickly that I am mediocre at best




I always thought I was pretty fast myself until riding on the track with some guys who do it for a living. It was a very humbling experience to say the least. All I know is that I am fast enough to scare the crap out of myself from time to time.
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Thelumox
Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 07:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

both "total control", and "sport riding techniques" are good. "sport riding techniques" was easier for me to understand. after some practice, i was able to have a lot more fun on curvy roads.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is the picture of the aforementioned event.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y220/TheRealJohnn yLunchBox/IMG_3298.jpg
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Karlsbad
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 03:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did my first full day on my new 08 Uly,
traded a 1100GS in for it.
Love the Uly great in the twisty stuff, superior brakes all the way around.
Couple minor complaints but as fun as the bike seems will sure get over them quickly.
Rode from Spokane Wa. into the panhandle of Idaho then over the mountains into Montana and back home again.
lots of tight stuff about 30 miles of dirt and finished of with the dreaded freeway drone home.
Really like the bike look forward to heading to Greatfalls Mt. for owner event in Sept.
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Pso
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Karlsbad-How are the rear brakes. The one on my 06 is very (I am not sure how to explain it) stiff or needs lots and lots of pressure to activate strongly. There were comments about the 06 rear brake about a year ago I was just wondering if they made them a little more sensative(?).
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Karlsbad
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pso, IMHO so far so good, i don't really use rear brake all that much mostly for trail braking into the corners, but what I have felt so far is quite adequate,good modulation and not a huge vertical movement of peddle to actuate brakes.
Remember this was my first real day out, I picked the bike up on Wednesday night, sorted the suspension out a little on Friday then went out for about 400 miles on Saturday, like I said so far so good.
Rained Sunday so we watched races all day, Nice to see Hopper & Hayden both on the podium.
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Cavi
Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

By the way, I got rid of my chicken strips on the ride!!!
Try the book Twist of the wrist II
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