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Lduly
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 02:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here are pictures or the Powers stuntworx cage .

left

This also shows the "hiway" peg. This is where I modified the air scoop for fitment

right


Had to remove the chin fairing which I replaced with the Tourtech front engine guard.
It does add a little more vibes to the chassis but I don't really notice it. I like to have the optional foot positions for really long days(1000 mile+). I'm planning a trip to Alaska at the end of June and with only 2 weeks there will probably be a couple of those long days.
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Thunderbox
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You know what works really well. The side bags. I speak from experience. Went down 27 April when an 80 year old woman cut me off. Not much damage at all. Bar end and hand guard. I will never ride with out the bags on again. Didn't even get a scratch on my legs. I was impressed. Needs a new bag cover but not much else. Sorry to say that setup looks monstrous. Doesn't add anything to an otherwise great looking bike. Kinda makes it look like a tuber sort of.
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Treadmarks
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Makes it look like a ducati on steroids.

Do ya think the vibes come from the bars, or the tt stone guard?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lduly,

You realize you are basically negating the isoplanar engine mounting system with that cage? The cage is more-or-less rigidly tying the front engine isolator mount to the rear of the frame. In addition to the vibration you feel, you are bound to be adding stress to the mounting system. In a hard fall, since the cage transfers the impact to the engine mount, it may break the engine mount, which is a much worse problem than what would typically occur in a fall without the cage.

It looks cool, but I'd be pretty leary of putting it on my Uly.
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Wesman
Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When you put your feet on those highway pegs are your knees next to your ears?....not making fun...just hard to image how they would function?
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Lduly
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 01:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm 5'8" with about a 29" inseam. Knees are only slightly bent.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LET ME know how she works for you, I have ordered a set for my CityX . Going to go BMW hunting, a wolf in Buell clothes
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Ka5ysy
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2007 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cityxslicker: you might have fun playing with a BMW R1200R... I have one and have easily paced an R6 and several other crotch rockets. I looked hard at the Uly but went BMW for may reasons including the fact that this bike is as flickable as the Buell without some of the issues and has the best suspension and ABS I have ever seen. If you get a chance, take one for a ride..

Check out my full report here:
http://www.dualsportridersoflouisiana.com/forums/s howthread.php?t=2378
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Beachbuell
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fugly!
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's entirely possible that your welds on the gas tank/frame will begin to fail because of that abomination you've attached to your perfectly good as engineered ULY. "It does add a little more vibes to the chassis but I don't really notice it." If you don't really notice it then it shouldn't have been mentioned. Just because somebody sells something doesn't mean it is a good idea. What you bought is a perfect example.

(Message edited by electraglider_1997 on May 28, 2007)
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Ulendo
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

those arent 'highway pegs'- as per the company name ( stuntworx) I'd suspect that they're for guys stunt riding while sitting on the handlebars...then the placement makes sense, as you'd be able to ride hands free, controlling the steering with your knees.

another downside to that setup for offroad is that there's now zero energy absorption if you bottom out the muffler. stock setup flexes slightly if/when you bottom the can, and prevents shredding the pipes. I suspect this setup would crack the header tubes if you bottom out....CityXslicker, take note

having dropped my X on rocks, I can say that the cases, and pipes arent really an issue. Bar ends, frame pucks, mirrors, and footpegs are the primary touchdown points. I have to add that the 'heavy steel bars' that a lot of folks seem to put down have faired quite well for off road use, too. The only piece I've even considered moving is the oil cooler, and even it is at least the 'right'way around to minimize damage.
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Rotorhead
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love to hear from backyard engineers. If this product was detrimental to the motorcycle Buell would stand up and say do not to use this product. Just as the Buell engineers have said there is no need for the right side air scoop. I know I started a fight with the airscoop thing. The real question you should ask, does it do what it is designed to do protect the motorcycle from a crash or lay down? It does look like it will protect the oil cooler well.

By the way I'm not an engineer and I'm talking out my butt.
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Ulendo
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

engineers hmm, now THERES a thought - is there a DOT or engineers certification on that thing?

thanks for pointing that out rotorhead.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 03:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am still waiting on them, I will give to the end of the month and then I am cancelling my order. They have been in stream for too entirely long, and I could use the money for GPS or commo.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For low speed impacts, I think the cage is fine. I would be leery of using it at high speeds since it would add sheer forces to engine mounts as well as to the frame. In a really bad crash, it wouldn't matter what you have strapped to your bike, it's toast.

As far as Buell saying "don't use this", there are literally thousands of products owners could use on their Buells that aren't recommended. Buell can't be responsible for unilaterally searching the marketplace and testing and determining the suitability of every single product.

If they were to certify a product, their endorsement would include that product into the warranty coverage in it's use. Not the product but the impact of the use of that product on the bike during the warranty period.

Case in point. I have an XBOX 360. There is an Intercooler Fan produced by NYCO for it. NYCO is an unofficial supplier of XBOX accessories. The intercooler has proven to damage the power unit of XBOXes. XBOX is not warrantying damaged boxes that have used the Intercooler fan.

The fan is still on the market.
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