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Hangetsu
| Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 01:20 pm: |
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With the extremely limited options out there for aftermarket exhausts to replace the Buell XB underslung muffler, has anyone found, made, or had made, a more traditional upswept system? Or does the design of the XB frame prohibit that as an option. With the variety and seeming effectiveness of twin or two into one Supertrapp systems for Sportsters, I'm a bit surprised that I've never seen such a system adapted to the Buell XB. What might be the reason for this? |
Froggy
| Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 01:49 pm: |
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I haven't seen anything outside a handful of customs that do anything like you describe. Given the small market share and the R&D needed to overcome the packaging issues I haven't sever seen anything production that doesn't use the underslung design.
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Natexlh1000
| Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 04:47 pm: |
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How do they interface the rubber mounted engine to frame interface? Flextube? |
Teeps
| Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 08:13 pm: |
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Hangetsu Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - With the variety and seeming effectiveness of twin or two into one Supertrapp systems for Sportsters, I'm a bit surprised that I've never seen such a system adapted to the Buell XB. What might be the reason for this? Unless you just need a project. Why try to fix what's not broken? Natexlh1000 Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - How do they interface the rubber mounted engine to frame interface? Flextube? Good question. In order for the header pipes on the Buell XB series to live. They must be monolithic with the engine, without preload stress, as it is with the stock setup. |
Woodnbow
| Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2017 - 10:06 pm: |
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As Teeps mentioned, "It ain't broke." The stock muffler works very well in terms of performance and noise reduction. The big downsides are it tends to corrode in some environments and it's heavy. Like many others, I have an aftermarket (EBR) race ECU and then I went with a modified stock muffler, Spec-Ops, it's much lighter, uses stock mounts so it doesn't interfere with the stellar function of the Ulysses, and for my wife, it sounds pretty nice too. So far I have 40K on this pipe on two different Uly's. You couldn't give me that ducati styled monstrosity posted above. Needless complexity. |
Falloutnl
| Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2017 - 03:39 am: |
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Because replacing the original exhaust with something that has a more traditional upswept design would ruin the entire mass centralization thing that makes a Buell great. |
Nillaice
| Posted on Friday, January 13, 2017 - 01:28 am: |
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Are you just talking about a LOOONG set of headers? Or why is the muffler between the tires? Relocating/flattening the muffler would gain ground clearance... Maybe good for a uly? |
Nillaice
| Posted on Friday, January 13, 2017 - 01:33 am: |
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Are you just talking about a LOOONG set of headers? Or why is the muffler between the tires? Relocating/flattening the muffler would gain ground clearance... Maybe good for a uly? |
Dr_greg
| Posted on Friday, January 13, 2017 - 11:12 am: |
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On my XB9R (boy, that was a while back; is that the correct model designation?) I fitted a car muffler adapted by Latus Motors to replace the stocker. Fit in there like it was made for it. Even had two chrome tips. It was a little lighter and a fair bit louder. When I sold the bike I sold the muffler to a guy in Belgium. --Doc |
Johndd
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2017 - 08:00 pm: |
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My 06 is currently being restored. I looked at an old photo and noticed it says "Micron" for the exhaust system. I assume this is stock? See attached photo (it also shows a previous owners orange hand paint effort):
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Ourdee
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2017 - 09:44 pm: |
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Not stock. Micron, Very desirable. |
Ourdee
| Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2017 - 09:54 pm: |
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Arry
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2017 - 01:42 am: |
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Hangetsu, You've probably seen this on Portland Craig's List, but if you haven't, it a Free Spirits front exit exhaust, with headers. Looks pretty serious, but pretty spendy. Also, you'd have to reprogram your ECM, or get a ECM that's set up for this system. |
Arry
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2017 - 01:46 am: |
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Ourdee, Is this the system that Dr greg mentions, or one that you've fabbed? |
Ourdee
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2017 - 06:32 pm: |
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Neither yet. The front curved piece is from a broken Jardine off fleabay for $37.72 shipped with chin fairing brackets. The pipe is an unmodified Magnaflow 11148. Last I heard Dean Adams Is still making a very nice complete system using the 11148. I know mine wont look as nice as the work he does, but I'm a DIY type. He makes other options too, http://ecommerce.deanadamsdesigns.com/index.php?cP ath=22 I'm waiting on some turn down tips, a pipe expander and to get to where my welder is. |
Surfsofa
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2017 - 08:31 pm: |
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I'll add another option, though I'm not sure if he can ship to the US. I had one of these fitted to an XT I owned in the UK and it was a beauty: http://www.aph-performance-engineering.com/buell_1 125_exhaust_ans_buell_xb_exhaust.html |
Ourdee
| Posted on Monday, January 16, 2017 - 10:06 pm: |
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Latus used an Edelbrock RPM series I think. |
Ratbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2017 - 01:03 pm: |
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Keep in mind, the stock (or Buell Performance) muffler is not only a muffler, but it is your jack point...and it makes one hell of a good skidplate. NO aftermarket unit is going to be strong enough to support the bike - jack on an aftermarket pipe and you'll pancake it. +1 on mass centralization. As an example - put a full 2L soda bottle in each hand. Extend your arms fully. Twist at the waist, full left to full right, a few times, quickly. That's what high-up exhausts feel like to a motorcycle chassis (and by extension, to the rider of said machine). Now, tuck both bottles to your chest and do the same rotations. Mass centralized. Feel the difference? So does the motorcycle. Same weight, just in the "right" location now. +1,000 on "if it ain't broke..." |
Ourdee
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2017 - 01:26 pm: |
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Mine is getting the 11148 because a previous owner thought Hawk was the way to go. Hawk is what it is. Not my cuppa? I liked the stock pipes. |
Hangetsu
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2017 - 08:00 pm: |
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I agree with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it.", and mine ain't broke - yet. I was only inquiring because it will be broke someday, and with aftermarket options for the underslung system dwindling (there have never been aftermarket options that work as a jack-point), I was just probing for other options. I was thinking of an upswept "street-trackerish" that would likely look, work, and sound freak'n awesome. Supertrapp silencers are not only light, they are tunable, and a tried and proven choice for air-cooled twins. Anyway, I guess my question was answered. Cheers! |
Nillaice
| Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 04:01 pm: |
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i have an edelbrock 5504 RPM muffler (discontinued) that I had a buddy weld up to copy the latus can and it works very well as a jacking platform. nice, wide flat bottom too but I can see where an aftermarket supplier would not endorse their muffler as a jacking point, cuz then you could hold them to it if you knock your bike over |
Ourdee
| Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 08:20 pm: |
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Got to my welder. I can't get any spare time. I'm still moving into new to me house. Doing a lot of work for a ready to move into house. Little things like pulling cabinets, removing bulk head, yanking out island, spackling, and painting. Moving self from 300 miles away, wife from across town, and mom-n-law and new hubby from 2 houses into a new one. |
Ourdee
| Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2017 - 04:57 pm: |
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Getting closer
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Ourdee
| Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2017 - 05:02 pm: |
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Still have to fit it to bike and tack inlet in place. Pull and weld. Then remount. I have to get it on before I get another 61 degree day. |
Ourdee
| Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2017 - 05:07 pm: |
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I found the rear clamps unused at a material rehab place. Both of them and a DVD of Nacho Libre plus tax was $2.13 . I was supposed to be looking for a ceiling fan. |
Ourdee
| Posted on Friday, February 10, 2017 - 07:41 pm: |
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Dean, why didn't you tell me how good the magnaflow sounds. Now I have to take it off to remove the kickstand so I can mount the new chin mounts. |
Ourdee
| Posted on Friday, February 10, 2017 - 08:06 pm: |
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Etennuly
| Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 12:52 am: |
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Nice job! |
Brother_in_buells
| Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 06:28 am: |
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Looks really good ,but turn those clamps around and tighten them from the right side With a ratchet extension piece it's accessible through the belt tensioner wheel Looks cleaner and no sharp things stick out. |
Hangetsu
| Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2017 - 01:40 pm: |
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I'm wondering how it runs with that muffler. Purpose-build systems have varying, and not always positive, effects on power delivery. I read a thread a few years ago about someone who modified a Magnaflow muffler to fit his Uly. It looked great, but he was very unhappy about the resulting power delivery. He later changed to a purpose built pipe (I forget which one) and it ran great. |
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