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Woodnbow
Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2015 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hah, reading and comprehension are challenging for us dislexics...

Anyway... the PO of my 08 shortened the sidestand an inch and added a big (1-1/4" x 2"?) pad to the end of it. That's working pretty well and it'll still stand on relatively soft ground.
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Phelan
Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2015 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Today I'm pulling the top end and cams as they are for sale as a kit, and I'm pulling the stator, anticipating my replacement in the mail in the next few days.
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1313
Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2015 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1. I left for work this morning (in ~50°F weather, i.e. cold in these parts) without pants (chaps). Please note that the frame did not get warm enough to help with my legs...

2. About 13 miles from work, the low fuel light came on.

They say 'bad things' happen in 3's, so what will my #3 be?

I don't expect that I'll be running out of gas, even considering that the only gas it runs acceptably on is at a station ~ 15 miles away.

Maybe I'll finally see some cords exposed on the rear tire. What's with that? I put new shoes on it before I went up to 'not-Homecoming' this year...

Pirelli Motorcycle Tires - I expect a Christmas card this year (my XB12XT, 1125CR and 1190RX have all needed rubber replacements at least once this year)!
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1313
Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2015 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SONOFABISCUIT!!!

Well 'bad thing' #3 happened on the way to the gas station on my way home tonight... However I made it to the gas station, without running out of gas!


Yes, that's oil!


I take it ALL back! I would've been *happier* if it were just cords showing!

More details to come...
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2015 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rub the hoses together up front?

What you mean not a homecoming? If you wanted a hug, the man was there. Could of even had a group hug.
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1313
Posted on Thursday, October 22, 2015 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rub the hoses together up front?

OH SO CLOSE!

Got it home and commenced a little deeper inspection.

LOTS of oil:

02 Home


That's kind of odd to have oil on the header - pushed forward rather than the air taking it towards the back.

03 Home


Then my eyes happened upon this:

04 Jiffy NOT SO tite


And another blurry shot for good measure:

05 Jiffy NOT SO tite


Jiffy (NOT SO) tite!
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2015 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2015 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How ya gonna fix it?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2015 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How on earth did that happen? Did you forget to put the clip back in? Tick off somebody where you work?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2015 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How ya gonna fix it?

Good question. Are those clips easy to get, or unobtanium?
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Phelan
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2015 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

XR1200s use them as well, should be a dealer item easily enough.
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1313
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2015 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How on earth did that happen? Did you forget to put the clip back in? Tick off somebody where you work?
All darn good questions. I recall doing something with Jiffytite fittings on one of my Buell's. After some thinking, that was on my 1125CR and it has been fine. The last time that was likely touched was just over 34,000 miles ago when the original motor was goodwilled. Now I'd be the first to throw the crack service department at that dealership under the bus (especially considering the handful of WTF things that I'm certain they did), but with over 34,000 miles on this engine I just don't see their actions being the cause.

Tick off somebody where you work?
Honestly that thought did run through my head. I'm not at work to make friends, I'm at work to get a job done, so I don't usually care if I'm 'liked'. Outside of the service clowns mentioned before I really can't see someone deliberately doing something like that. However, if there were security cameras in the motorcycle parking area I park in, you'd better believe reviewing the footage would be at the top of my list.

How ya gonna fix it?
I got a great Buell parts contact! I just need to inspect the others and take a closer look at the lines to see if anything else should be replaced as well.

At least it was pretty darn close to being due for an oil change...
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2015 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can imagine it'd be possible to not seat the clip exactly correctly so that it would later work its way off, or maybe it was fatigued during the removal/reinstallation process and eventually broke.

How much oil did you lose on your ride home?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2015 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is that clip a "do not reuse" part? It probably is, and it is probably due to this kind of "30k miles later" scenario. So maybe not a surprise.

(For the record, for non race applications on my own bike, I would have reused it too. I might even have reused it on somebody else's bike, but I would have told them.)
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Brother_in_buells
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2015 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A couple weeks ago someone on the buellersdownunder forum had exactly the same thing,

http://www.buellersdownunder.com/forum/showthread. php?11908
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1313
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2015 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd expect time to failure would be much shorter if it were poor assembly. Hell, those 34,000 + miles have been put over the last 4 years.

Keep in mind that I'm an "old-schooler" and am basing this on the E-clip debacle on the '97 front rotors. Poorly skilled mechanics caused a recall in no time. Having brakes that lock up probably is a higher 'pucker factor' than oil getting splashed all over your bike, so that may have been what escalated the E-clip recall.

But, yeah, potential poor assembly is why I want to inspect the condition of the other clips and line ends.

Stick was dry when I got home. Seems most of it had expelled before the gas stop. Thankfully the gas stop is VERY CLOSE to my house.

It could have been a LOT worse!
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2015 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm looking at wet leaves this morning. Bad as oiled tires. Careful out there.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2015 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just installed my 2008 XT kickstand (I installed an XT rear shock and raised the forks an inch a couple of weeks ago).

Sure wish they had left a little clearance so you could change the kickstand without removing the muffler. Muffler remove and reinstall is a PITA.

Incidental notes:

1- The 2008 XT kickstand has 3 mounting holes whereas the original 2007 X stand only had 2. I'm not sure if the original 2007 engine had 3 holes or not, but the current 2009 engine does. Seems like a much stouter mounting arrangement.

2- My recent muffler paint job was flaking off around the header connection. The primer was well adhered, but the satin clear coat and black had flaked off. I wire brushed it a little and gave it a shot of VHT high heat black. Otherwise, most of the paint looks very good.
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Arry
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2015 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hugh, Sounds like that all worked out well. Even though the muffler removal was a PITA, you got to cleanup/touchup, so worth the trouble. I don't think that '07s have the 3rd hole.
When you raise the fork that much, do you still have clearance, when the fork bottoms out (fender or ..?)?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2015 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^ I haven't seen any clearance issues in normal riding, but I wouldn't be surprised to find some interference if the suspension completely bottoms out.

I'm pretty happy with the reduced height. Guess I'll keep an eye on eBay for some XT forks but they appear to be as rare as hen's teeth. There are at least 2 sets of NEW X forks on eBay right now.
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Phelan
Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2015 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Phelan
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2015 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Back to the spirit of this thread, today I ordered a new Air box cover and a few days ago I received and installed a MadStad sport flyscreen (no holes). Last week I picked up another rear wheel, just looking for a front one now. Bike is getting a complete makeover.

BTW the bike is running good, but I haven't had much time to sort it or tune it much since I moved 2 weeks ago.

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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, November 16, 2015 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I squeezed by mine to get to some stuff in my shed.....so I guess I could say I rubbed my ass on it! and I moved my new, not yet mounted front tire out of the shop and into the shed, because it was getting dusty.
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Tootal
Posted on Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't let the dust settle inside the tire, you'll never get it balanced!
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, November 18, 2015 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, I know what you mean. The dust will clean right off, inside and out, but if it lies around too long in a body shop it would get overspray on it that surely would be a time waster to clean off.

I probably should just mount it up so that I can use it. Kind of trying to nurse some sore knuckles back into use. Changing a tire would not help that. I have a new assistant but he has never changed a tire, not really keen on "hands on" teaching him how to do it on my Uly front tire and painted rim.
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Yo_barry
Posted on Friday, November 20, 2015 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK, 2009 XB12S .. about 23K miles.

Last time I rode I noticed some oil accumulated on top of the muffler in the area of the rear clamps.
I can't see anything on the left side, or top of the engine that is leaking. On the right side, it looks oily around the back of the front belt sprocket.
I cleaned the oil off the muffler and right side of the engine with brake cleaner, then rode for about 40 minutes. Couldn't see any new oil.
I checked both the primary oil and oil in the swingarm. The primary is just at the bottom of the chain sprocket (checked cold.) The dipstick is right in the middle of the operating range (checked hot.)
It is possible that I overfilled the engine oil in the swingarm when I changed oil about 600 miles ago.
Is there an overflow or oil vent somewhere in the neighborhood of the rear of the engine?

Thanks,

Barry
Hollister, CA
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Arry
Posted on Friday, November 20, 2015 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most of us run our engine oil level near the bottom of the dipstick. If you run it near the middle or higher, it tends to blow out the PCV valves and into the airbox (unless you've done a "breather reroute")
Your oil leak could be the neutral switch, behind the front sprocket. I've had to replace 2 of these.
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Yo_barry
Posted on Friday, November 20, 2015 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I took the airbox off and checked the PCV valves. The rear PCV was seeping a little oil out of the gasket but not enough to run down to the bottom of the engine.
The airbox itself did not have any oil in it other than a slight misting. I'm still running the stock setup.

I've also got an 01 S3T that has always had oil blow-bye problems. Oil would leak out of the airbox with the stock setup.

I do not understand the practice of running the oil level at the bottom of the dipstick. The engine is a dry sump and only pulls what it needs from the oil supply. It shouldn't matter what the oil level is in the swing arm or the oil tank on the S3T. Can anybody enlighten me?

For what it's worth, I'm running Mobile 1 in both bikes.

And from the department of redundancy department, isn't it just PCV, not PCV Valve?

Barry
confused in Hollister, CA
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Arry
Posted on Friday, November 20, 2015 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What you're saying about the dry sump makes sense, I hadn't thought it through and just followed what others were doing. For some reason it did seem to get oil in the airbox, when I was running a higher level on the dipstick. I've now done a bypass.
Check that neutral switch.
Positive Crankcase Ventilation Valve
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Tootal
Posted on Saturday, November 21, 2015 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We don't know why but if you change oil and filter and put a total of 2.5 quarts in the bike and take a ride your level will be around the second X on the dipstick. Dos Equis! Do not add more oil, this is your full mark. For some reason if you put more in it will come out of the breathers. It happened to me and many others and if we keep the level at Dos Equis it does not make it to the air cleaner or breather hose.
I might add that you should check the oil when hot, on the side stand on level surface. Pull the dipstick while running and wipe it off. Shut the engine off and check the oil. You may not need to be this anal but it does give you the most accurate measurement since some bikes tend to bleed down once the engine is shut off.

I would check your oil level in this manner and then check it again five minutes later and see if it changed. If not then you have a good one.
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