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Griffmeister
Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2015 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Last time I had to borrow a take apart ring compressor from someone and it did not work that well to begin with. It took three tries to get the cyl over all three rings without one popping out. Now I have to pull the cyl again for a stupid leak and wonder if you can just pull the cyl high enough to slip the wrist pin out without disturbing the rings? Anyone been able to do it this way?
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Rayycc1
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2015 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

theoretically that should work...an extra set of hands would be a bonus...let us know how it works...I have sucessfuly used a hose clamp as a ring compressor for a Buell
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Jim2
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2015 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buellistic says you can but cover the base of the engine well so the wrist pin clips don't fall inside.
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Griffmeister
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2015 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"cover the base of the engine well so the wrist pin clips don't fall inside"

Good point!
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Tootal
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2015 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Absolutely, that's the way I always do it. The warning about the wrist pin is very valid! I stuff paper towels or rags in the holes around the rod then install the piston/cylinder.
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Nillaice
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2015 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

that's how I rebuilt my 1125, cuz I didn't have a ring compressor at the time.

holding the whole crank assembly made those jugs seem just that much bigger ...
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Griffmeister
Posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2015 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like a plan, will definitely enlist some help as I remember how heavy those jugs are.
I guess my other reason, whether it's legit or not, is the rings only have like 300 miles on them and I would like to keep them in their "set" position.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2015 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, absolutely. I've done it. Just be careful. I have a ring compressor, but I removed the (front) cylinder and piston as a unit.

--Doc

P.S. I put the whole top-end teardown sequence on ADVrider.com, but I'm too lazy to look up the link now...
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L84dinr
Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2015 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tried "that" while I had the engine rotated for a fan replacement. The rocker cover gaskets and the push rod cover gaskets were weeping oil and it looked tacky, i wanted to clean it up. I managed to remove the front jug with the piston still in the jug. Tugged just a little too hard on the rear jug and pulled past the rings. I ended up re-ringing the engine. Most expensive part was purchasing correct size hone for the cylinders.
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Griffmeister
Posted on Sunday, May 10, 2015 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, that went better than expected. The ring tension is so strong that I didn't have to worry about pulling the jug off of the piston, didn't lose the circlip either. The hardest part of the whole job was putting the exhaust manifold back on, that sucker did not want to seat well in the front head. It is tight, though. Ran out of time to get any further along, hope to get back up and running soon.
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