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Dougm
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone use the No-Scuff tire tool on their X?

For years I have changed my own tires, albeit mostly with bias ply, narrow rims with tall sidewalls, and a generous center relief groove in the rim. The X has almost zero relief, very stiff, short sidewall. I have busted knuckles, torn through rim strips, and finally given up and taken the rear tire to the shop. The front seems to still be as simple as I have known in the past, the rear is the pain.

I was looking at the No-scuff tire tool (http://no-scufftiretool.com/index.html#No-Mar_moun t_end_upgrade). He cautions that it most likely won't work if tire spoons won't.

Tired of $50 trips to the dealer and a couple lost days and want to get back to doing this myself.

Thanks, D
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It looks like it is half way to being a NoMar bar, you might as well get the real thing

http://www.nomartirechanger.com/product_p/tc-mdbar -std.htm

You still would need something to hold the wheel, break the bead, etc, but if all you need is a good mount/dismount bar go for that one.
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Mnrider
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm old school-low budget.I use pieces of milk jug to protect the rim and wood clamps to pinch the tire.
The back tire is still tough like you say but I did a new front tire monday and it went on and off ok.
My bike was really falling in on turns.Nothing as nice as a new front tire, the beast handles great again.
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Teeps
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Too exhausting for me.
It's good I have free access to a Coats tire changer.
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use the Nomar Bar and lube products with a tire machine from Harbor freight. Once I figured out it can hold the wheel by the brake discs all has been good.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy will call me the devil for this but....

I bit the bullet and bought a cycle hill kit and balancer. Works fine but I had to add one of these "yellow things"
http://www.nomartirechanger.com/product_p/ac-yello wthing.htm

No matter what I did, the bead on the rear would chase me around in circles. The "yellow thing" stops it from moving.

One more thing: I had to tie a strap through the wheel to keep it from rotating in the clamps with all the lube flying around.

One thing pissed me off about the kit though.
The balance toy DOESN'T come with weights!
I had to reuse my old weights the first time around with two sided tape.
Second time around, I needed more weights and had to buy a huge box of sticky weights at an auto parts store.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dougm, I have one of the bars, it works just fine. I too have a Harbor Freight unit slightly modified to clear the rotor or pulley.
The combo works well. I also have one of the "Yellow Things", it makes life much easier.
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, August 01, 2013 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did not get the yellow thing with my kit so I just use a wooden paint stir stick if I have one that is being a pisser.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, August 02, 2013 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I TRIED to not buy that yellow thing tool but no matter what thing I stuck in the bead, the tire pooped it out.In hindsight, I think a ratcheting tiedown would have worked too. Or even a large ziptie.

Funny thing this time around when I did the front, I held it over my head all lubed up and smacked it right over the rim : )
The rear still needed the yellow thing and a "walk around" though.
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Boogeyman
Posted on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Harbor freight changer, no-mar bar, ru-glyde lube, yellow thing. Lube it up, run the no-mar bar around until it starts to get difficult, leave no-mar bar and yellow thing where they are and finish up with tire levers and old plastic oil jug pieces. I also lube the sidewall of the tire where the end of the no mar bar rides on the side wall. I don't lube the bead, just the sidewall. That helps tremendously, for me anyway. IF the harbor freight changer was lower I think I could get better leverage and not use the tire levers. I've done it before, but it always was tough.
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