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Portero72
| Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 09:01 pm: |
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Is there a difference or advantage to using either? I am the new guy on the list of 'who has stripped the oil plug threads', even though I was using factory torque specs. Also, anyone know the size and thread pitch of the drain bolt? Thx guys. |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 09:50 pm: |
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Timesert looks more oem. I've never used them but have used helicoil. |
Discochris
| Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 01:26 am: |
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I just posted something on this on my thread about stripping the oil drain. Go with the timesert. More expensive, but definitely sturdier. |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 12:49 pm: |
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Timesert is better. And I tried to help a buddy with an SV650 that stripped his plug (fairly common on that bike also), and we have since had a lot of trouble getting that bolt to seal well. So in general, I probably would just go with a helicoil, because though its not as good, its good enough and I can get one up the street. But for this case, I would probably step up for a timesert. Ping Alex Prior (prior). He might be able to help you out. (Message edited by reepicheep on July 23, 2011) |
S_palmer
| Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 01:12 pm: |
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Either will hold for a bolt that won't be removed often, for a drain plug the timesert is far superior. I have had a lot of helicoil inserts come out with the plug when I removed them. |
Teeps
| Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 10:36 am: |
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Either will work just fine. When installed correctly. Helicoil kit is going to be cheaper. |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 07:02 pm: |
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I don't know if is the same thing as a Timesert but my Klein bicycle has timesert type inserts on the down tubes to hold the screws that hold the water bottle cages. One of the screws just spins the threaded insert so I can't use it as it is intended. Haven't been able, so far, to hold that insert in place to get the screw out. |
Jlnance
| Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 06:32 am: |
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Either one is going to be better than the original tapped in threads, so consider this an upgrade. |
Sagehawk
| Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 01:26 am: |
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My uly drain bolt is 1/2-20 tpi. also on road king transmission. went to o'reilly and got flanged bolt, pkg of 3 blue gaskets and no longer use o-ring drain bolts. torque to 80-100 inch-lbs. recheck every so often untill you trust bolt to stay tight. some of the o'reilly bolts can be bought original size, one oversize or 2 oversize. these are a self tapping bolts so use grease,no gasket the first time and screw bolt in. pull out, degrease and clean hole well. use loc-tite 565 sealant, new gasket, torque bolt up, install oil and press on with life. IT IS JUST A DRAIN BOLT AFTER ALL! sorry, it is just a machinist thing. |
Anonymous
| Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 10:24 am: |
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With the Loc-tite 565 sealant on the threads. The bolt doesn't stand a chance of loosening and falling out. And, there is always safety wire... |
Portero72
| Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 03:19 pm: |
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I wound up using a heli-coil, a few sizes over, after repeated attempts with oversize drain bolts. It has been a bit of a debacle. Seems solid, however, with two copper crush washers and teflon tape. I don't think the new mating surfaces are as flush as the old, hence the reinforcements. |
Portero72
| Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2011 - 03:21 pm: |
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PS-the plug 'wept' until I snugged it down to 30 ft-lbs. |
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