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Buellmeister57
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After 8,000 trouble-free miles, (except for rear wheel bearings) the rear rockerbox on my 09 Uly has sprung a leak. I thought they fixed that problem years ago. Anyway, it's under warranty. Off to the dealer. GRRRRRRR!!!!!
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Blasterd
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My rocker box, pushrod base, both inspection covers, shift shaft seal and oil line has leaked since I bought the bike new in Oct, it's still leaking a 8,000 miles
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Blasterd
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh yeah, Outdoorsman side cases leak too....
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Florida_lime
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A leaking rear rockerbox can take out the fan. I'd replace it ASAP.
DAMHIK (twice !)
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Blasterd
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My front is leaking but I do have a small weep on the rear. I sold both my trucks in Jan so it's the only way I have to go right now but I plan to take some time off and take it in for work soon.
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7873jake
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm gonna sorta halfway tentatively raise my hand here and ask you if your rear PVC valve is fully seated and in its proper place?

I thought I had a leaky rocker box earlier this year until I found that the tell-tale trail was coming from the rear PCV valve not being fully nestled and snug'd up.

I cleaned the trail, reseated the PCV valve and did a breather re-route and the trail that had been there and tricklin' since I bought the bike has since stayed gone.

Its worth a check at the very least unless you have very concrete evidence that its coming from a specific place.

(Message edited by 7873jake on August 04, 2010)
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Blasterd
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My PCV valves are ok, checked them again a couple of weeks ago. My leaks are not terrible, more than a seep but not gushing. If they were real bad I would have rushed it to the dealer.
When the rockers went on my M2 I was covered in oil before I could get home, sad thing is that was only 3 miles from work..
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Lastcyclone
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could use a part number for a "shift shaft seal" and some how to as to it's replacement? I got a weepy one now too.
I seem to remember the entire clutch cable needed to be replaced, no?
Thanks.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Paul- I don't have the P/N handy for the seal, but it's a pretty easy job to replace it. If you don't already have one, go to the auto parts store and get an O-ring pick. Remove the shifter mechanism from the shaft by loosening and then completely removing the clamp bolt, then sliding the linkage piece off the end of the shaft. Carefully take your O-ring pick and work it between the shaft and the seal, being careful not to scratch the shaft. Get the point of it behind the seal, work it around the seal pulling outwards until the seal comes out. Coat the inside of the new seal with a little grease. Next, take a plastic sandwich bag and cut a ~2" x 2" square out of it at one of the corners of the bag (you want the corner to be part of your square). Place this over the shifter shaft to protect your nice new seal from being damaged from the splines on the end of the shifter shaft. Carefully place the seal over the bag on the end of the shifter shaft and slide it into place. Find a socket wrench in your tool kit that's just big enough to clear the shifter shaft and use that to drive the seal into place. Give it a few taps to seat it and remove the socket. Carefully pull out the plastic bag corner. Reinstall the shifter mechanism, and you should be good to go.
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Lastcyclone
Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cool, thanks, pretty thorough on the directions too.
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Rwven
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll have to check that PCV valve on mine today. I rode up from CT to Canada yesterday and when I arrived here I had oil on the muffler dripping down from the front "sprocket" area. At first I thought that the transmission output shaft was leaking but the top of the tranny in the starter motor area is oil covered too. I know I have a leak in the rear rocker box area, it took out my cooling fan earlier this year, but I was waiting for winter to rotate the engine an fix it.
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7873jake
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was surprised at how much mine was weeping with the PCV valve being out just a little. It took some contortion and knuckle skin to clean the burnt oil off in those tight spaces but it hasn't returned, thankfully.
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Rwven
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the PCV valve on the top of the cases right behind the base of the rear cylinder, or am I correct in assuming that is the transmission vent? I can see that oil is definitely leaking from the rocker box cover, and the fan is drenched in oil. No matter, I am in the midst of a 10 day trip to Canada, Northern New England and Upstate New York so there is little to be done for it now.
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7873jake
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2010 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On the very top of the rocker box. If you remove the air cleaner cover and air box to look down in to the area around your throttle body, it should be right of the centerline of the bike as if you were sitting on it, aft/behind the throttle body rubber skirt, a round rubber plug about 1.5" in diameter.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/449739.html?1238910149

and look at the first picture in Poppinsexz's post.

(Message edited by 7873jake on August 06, 2010)
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Rwven
Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks jake, I'm not leaking from there. It's engine rotating time!
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Buellmeister57
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

UPDATE

Took my bike to the dealer, the rear rockerbox was leaking. 12 days later it's fixed!!! They went ahead and replaced the front rockerbox gaskets too. Glad it's still under warranty, it's not as easy to work on as my old Cyclone.
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