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Dr_greg
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And I haven't even threatened to get rid of him...

Lately I'm hearing a fairly low-pitched "whine" at moderate to high speeds on the '06 Uly; the pitch of the whine is keyed to the speed of the bike, not the engine. Declutching has no effect. It is not dependent on road surface.

Naturally my first thought is wheel bearings. The bike has 30K miles, so I'm doing the 10K maintenance today. I'll check wheel bearings as part of it.

Anybody have any other possible sources of such a sound? Idler pulley? Countershaft bearing?

Thanks in advance, etc.

--Doc
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

She's prolly jus pissed because you were out test riding GS's.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey, that was a long time ago! Although I have been thinking F800GS and KTM 990ADV test ride pretty soon.

--Doc
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've noticed a little of that on my Uly ('06) since returning to the stock muffler - allowing me to actually *hear* things! Since I run 616's, I chalked it up to a smaller form of "tire hum" like I get from the 31s on my Jeep. I run black seal bearings in my rear wheel that are in good shape, but still have the OEM orange ones in the front (12k miles).

Be interesting to see what you find...
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The idler pulley bearings do go bad occasionally, so be sure and check those.
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Xbeau12s
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

my 07 with a little over 2k on it (stock muffler) I can hear a little mechanical hum. It's just the bike doing what it does best. Running correctly!
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Ulynut
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine started doing that just before my wheel bearing let go. About 55-60 mph there was a little whine, almost like a whistle. I thought it was the way the wind was blowing around the fly screen. I was wrong.
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Dr_greg
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I removed the rear wheel; the rear wheel bearings, the idler pulley bearings, and the countershaft bearings feel just fine.

However, I noticed this:


At 60 mph, I calculated the frequency of the missing tooth passing over the countershaft sprocket would only be about 18 Hz, well below the pitch of the whine that I've been hearing.

However, it could be generating many higher harmonics, so---even though it seems strange for a MISSING tooth to generate noise---I'm going assume that's the problem, and I'm going to install the NEW belt (was gonna wait until shortly before Homecoming for that) and see what happens.

I still have one more used belt for a spare. BTW, this belt has something between 25,000-30,000 miles on it. It is not the original belt; the original owner had the belt replaced early in the bike's life. But it is an early model belt.

--Doc
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Alchemy
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow Doc, thanks for the report. I would not have thought of that. If the new belt does not fix it then maybe the tires should be a suspect as well.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dr_greg, I did the missing tooth thing around December. It didn't produce a whine.

Ratbuell, I run 31"s on my Jeep. If you rotate them every 6k miles or less they wont start whining.
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Ghostrider
Posted on Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Doc, we're going tooling around "South 14" for a while tomorrow. Coffee At Dawn in Cedar Crest at 0900. Maybe lunch in Mountainair, then probably turn back and go to Santa Fe. If it's still nice and I'm feeling frisky, maybe return via NM4 and Valles Caldera. You are, of course, invited to join us. Should be about six Buells and various other makes.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ourdee - ya, I rotate every vehicle's tires at every other oil change. They're all 4x4, and I refuse to cup tires because I'm too lazy to rotate. Got 65k out of the first set of tires on our diesel ram! But...these 31s are just *that* aggressive. They hummed when new...and I loooove it! : )
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Dr_greg
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thought I'd bring this story to an end...

Never overlook the obvious! I took a look at my front tire (Distanzia with about 7,000 miles)...I haven't seen that much feathering since BIG BIRD!! A little hard to see in this photo, but it's BAAAAD.


New tires on the way. This time Michelin Pilot Road 2's for the trip to Homecoming and beyond.

--Doc
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Ulywife
Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

bumped out of archives
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Terrible1one3
Posted on Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am going with the Michelin Pilot Road 2's for my next set too.
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