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Johnboy777
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Based on Buell's recent demise - What are some of the must-have parts we should consider... both now, and into the near future?

EDIT:
Saying that Harley will keep making our parts for 5 - 7 years into the future is BS - they can stop anytime they want - just like they stopped making Buells.

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(Message edited by johnboy777 on October 23, 2009)
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Jphish
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmmm - Yeah not much in the way of aftermarket parts to supplement the factory equipment. Since I plan to keep mine for a long while I'm thinkin things unique to a Uly, not available from other sources & not repairable: VR, ECM.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whatever your beliefs are to HD supplying parts, there was at least 10 other identical threads like this in the last week with all the answers. : )
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Drive belts.

I imagine the aftermarket will pick up as factory support tapers off. Al Lighton or somebody similar will buy up all the remaining stock of factory parts at the end of 7 years if Harley doesn't hold on to it. Thank goodness a lot of the wear parts are off the self commercial or common with Sportsters.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

""I imagine the aftermarket will pick up as factory support tapers off""

What about ECM's?

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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When it comes down to it...neither Buell nor HD builds ECMs. My guess is, once the factory no longer supports them, the manufacturer will likely step up. I know HD uses Delphi...not sure who Buell sources from though.

Also, once the HD corporate stranglehold is gone...perhaps we'll see more reprogrammers and the like. I know my Shelby-Dodge cars have a slew of custom SBEC (single board engine controller) manufacturers - socketed EEPROMs, fresh software, etc. I can call any of ten or fifteen vendors right now and get a new custom computer for my 89 Shelby CSX-VNT - a car they only built 500 of. Total. If the market is there...the vendors will come.
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Mark_weiss
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Suzuki RE-5s became extinct because Suzuki ceased support for the electronics. CDI units were weak and were no longer in production a few years after the bike went out of production. When the supply of CDIs was exhausted, production was not taken up by the aftermarket. RE-5s went the way of the dinosaur. I vote for ECMs.

Mark
SE AZ
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.intelligentdesignsolutionsinc.com
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Eulysses
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

IDS...how cool is that! Hope they find some more contracts and help us keep our ECM's running.
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Eulysses
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BTW...the ECM was is on my stash list. For the 09 ULY it is :
ECM $352.99 Y0152.1AMA
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Johnboy777
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's my top three thus far for my '07-

1--Drive Belt: Part # G0500.1AKE
2--ECM: Part # Y0152.3A8 ENGINE CONTROL UNIT
3--Frame Paint: (gray frame paint):
Part # M0300.1AAYBP brush
Part # M0310.1AAYBP aerosol

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Froggy
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

BTW...the ECM was is on my stash list. For the 09 ULY it is :
ECM $352.99 Y0152.1AMA




I hope you know that the ECM is blank and needs to be programmed!
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Firstbatch
Posted on Friday, October 23, 2009 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Isolator motor mount.....buy several and stash
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Eulysses
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good one Froggy. I wondered. I should order from the dealer and ask him to do the 09 update on it. Wonder if it needs juice to stay alive.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It needs to be installed on your bike then programmed on your bike. The ECM does a lot more than the older ones, including things like storing the odometer reading. ECM failures are rare, I wouldn't bother keeping a spare. Cross that bridge when you come to it.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Something nobody's mentioned- fuel pump.

I'll bet it's one of the things we'll find is common with an auto or other motorcycle application (at least the pump assembly itself). It'd be good to start figuring out any components like that that can be obtained from outside sources- fuel injectors and various engine sensors also come to mind.
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Werewulf
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i imagine it will become just like the tubers... the xbs will soon be parted out like the tubers...buell dropped interest in the tubers overnight.. with buell gone, parts will prolly be available until the warranty on the xbs is gone, then adios..you can see from my profile, that ive owned a bunch of buells for a long time.. this time, i think the bikes have "had the lick", so to speak.. thats just my opinion..

as far as the ecm, i removed the ecm from my S-3 and replaced the entire package with daytona twin-tec stand alone equipment... with the 08 models having a different system, i wonder if anyone will pick up on it.. you couldnt even make a mutant chopper out of the 08s unless you addressed the crank ecm pickup thingy.
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Cycletlh
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My wife and I have Excelsior Hendersons. Belly up in 1999 after producing approximately 1968 bikes. Can still get most parts from those that bought the remaining inventory. I stocked up on the rubber parts unique to the bike, stator, and exhaust.

Will not buy anything for the Uly. If I did not own one, I would be buying one now!
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Jphish
Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What about a Voltage Regulator ? Available else where or 1 of a kind ?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I believe the VR for 2006-2007 Ulys with their 3-phase alternator is unique to Buells and the later version uses the same part as Sportsters. It may be possible to convert the older Ulys to the new parts if you swap the stator and the VR. I suppose we'll have to figure things like this out over the next few years.
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