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Archive through March 10, 2008Chadhargis30 03-10-08  06:32 pm
         

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Nav18tor
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a Grand Cherokee with the 3.0L V6 Mercs motor

Fantastic is the only word I can use, 28Mpg (us) as a minimum, thats low 30's here in the UK

Done 40,000 miles this year and will run it until it breaks
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2008 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Chad - that's some great info on the Liberty. I'll have to keep an eye out for one, the ol' lady loves em but I was a little shy because of the trans problems (I used to work for a Jeep dealer). Sounds like you have the fixes sorted. Although it would be strictly a commuter for her - our 'hauler' is the 2005 Ram 2500 4x4 quad, with the 5.9 Cummins 375/610 : ) I just can't justify driving a tank that size to work and back, even though it nets 21 in town.
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Jamesg
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Diesel around here is running about a dollar MORE than premium (north of $4).

I would say hell no to a diesel unless you have access to a source of biodiesel or are willing to break the law and use the red stuff.
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Bearly
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Relative efficiency: Think about Horse power divided by mileage. Or volume divided by mpg.

So for those that would love to have lots of ponies, compare mommy's econo box hybrid that has what 100 hp and gets 50 miles per gallon (100/50=2) with a car that has 505 hp and gets 26 miles per gallon (505/26=19.42).

For more efficient fun, buy Chevy!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 Bearly...it's dollars per mile, not dollars per gallon, where diesel shines. Even at $3.95/gallon.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bearly, how about that 7L engine you have getting better gas mileage than a 2L Honda S2000? : )

Damn you! I just had to watch the TopGear video again. Does the GPS really go to fast food first?

But yea, I wouldn't mind having something cheap like a KLR650, but that was Diesel. Con my local deli out of a drum of the fry grease, and then i can ride for a month : )
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

<perk> TopGear? Wha? I love that show...what vid? I posted one in the KTM car thread about tha Ariel Atom...but what's the one about the GPS?
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Chadhargis
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A diesel KLR would be awesome. You could make a small biodiesel processor out of a 5 gallon bucket and make a tank full every two days. : )
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I saw them convert a diesel vehicle to bio on Discovery channel's Invention Nation. Flocculate out the glycerin with a lye and methanol mixture. The gycerine/lye/methanol goes to the bottom and everything on top is bio-diesel. I want a diesel Buell.
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Nipsey
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

heh-heh....you said flocculate...
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ratbuell:
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Awesome. "Zed-oh-six"...I love it : )
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fast and uncomfortable?
Well that's what happens when you take the compromises out o a road-going vette.
How did "The Stig" do with a normal vette?
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/laptimes/t hestig/

15 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 1.22.4
31 Chevrolet Corvette 1.26.8
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Chadhargis
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 07:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

I saw them convert a diesel vehicle to bio on Discovery channel's Invention Nation




All diesel engines will run biodiesel without any changes. You might be thinking of veggie oil or waste veggie oil (which is used to make biodiesel).
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Chad,
That's what I meant. They set up some super filtration system so that all they'd do with fry oil is decant it off into the tank. They didn't have to get the glycerine out using lye.
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Hdbobwithabuell
Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like to flocculate my beer too
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