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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have my primary cover off to put the updated tensioner and metal gasket in, but am not sure how to replace the shifter seal. I've done a search, but no one has actually said how to accomplish this.
I got this from daves




and I see there is what appears to be a bronze bushing pressed in.
Does this bushing have to be pushed out (f so how- bang it out with a socket or?)
or do I just pick the seal out with a scribe?
Thanks
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Xldevil
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey.
No,don't push that bushing out!Leave it where it is!The seal comes out very easy pushing it by a screw driver.Press the new seal in with a matching socket or tube.The pressure should only affect the outer side of the seal.If you warm up the primary cover and freeze the seal in advance, you should be able to press it in by your thumb.That's the way I did it.
Ralph



(Message edited by xldevil on May 17, 2006)
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

THANKS! I just didn't want to bugger it up only to find out something different!
I took it apart last night and after 1.5 weeks of record rain- the sun comes out today! I know life works this way and should have taken it apart as soon as the rain began! : )
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Should I check/torque anything else while I'm in there?
This bike is new to me and it seemed to be getting noisier or I was tuning into the noises!
I did check the slack a week or 2 ago and it seemed to be right at 3/4", but now that it is apart I was surprised to see where the chain has contacted the case- quite a bit really.
I did not find any metal in the lube at all, so I think it happened to the P.O. and had since been adjusted and the fluid changed (though I bought it with only 5k on it).
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Xldevil
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You should get this one,before any working on your bike.
http://www.repairmanual.com/catalog/99491-02Y

Read this,to know the biggest problems of your tuber and how to avoid them.Not to mention,read the BWB KV carefully.
If you fail to plan,you plan to fail,IMO
Ralph
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

already have it, and have read the KV for hours. I just want to make sure I covered everything while in there. There isn't any chapter called "suspicious noises" or "how to tell if the PO or dealer F'd up your bike" : )
thanks
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Xldevil
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There isn't any chapter called "suspicious noises" Yes, there is a current article http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/183815.html?1147876523and there are a lot of older articles about that.
Ralph
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks Ralph, I had read that one, but am not sure how best to get an accurate measurement, everyone seems to have their favorite method.
Considering the marks I found on the inside of the cover, I think I will adjust it more to the 5/8" side of things. Yes too loose may be better than too tight, but having the chain saw through the cover can't be good either!
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Xldevil
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

but having the chain saw through the cover can't be good either!

I second that.
It's no rocket science anyway.
Ralph
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Firemanjim
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also,when putting the cover back on a little tape over the splines keeps them from gouging your new seal and negating any benefit you might have had.And lube the seal before,also.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Scott,

For a measurement, the sideplates on the primary chain are 3/8" high at the wider points on the rounded ends. I position my head so I see the top of the plate even with the top of the hole and then push up on the chain. When I am pushing up until it hurts my finger and the sideplate just goes out of sight I consider it right.

Jack
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, I think I got it guys- thanks for the tips, she'll be back together tonight!
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Iamike
Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al Lighton told me to use the corner cut off of a baggie to cover the spline. I put a little grease on the outside to make it sliperier. It works better than tape.
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Scott_in_nh
Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm, good one mike, but I got it all back together last night- no leaks (knock on wood)
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Bluzm2
Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll second the baggie corner trick.
I've done it a number of times, works perfect.
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Patrickh
Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

baggie works, one wrap of plastic electrical tape works too
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