| Author | Message | ||
     José_quiñones |
FWIW, I did the opposite, I removed this "optional fourth" link on my S3 because I found that it diminished the vibration reaching the fairing and handlebars. I have been riding and battletraxing that way for a while and the Isolator seems to be doing fine. The only time I have torn that front Isolator is when I "overload" the bike with a passenger. | ||
| Djkaplan |
I didn't notice any vibration when I installed the link. I actually haven't noticed anything at all, vibration or otherwise. Adding the link might be entirely superfler..., superflor...., uh..., unnecessary. edited by djkaplan on March 26, 2004 | ||
| Hardie42 |
Hi, does anybody know the amount of oil to fill in a M2 - Fork??? A friend just called, he´s working on his bike yet and has no oportunity to search elsewhere. Thanks, Christian edited by hardie42 on March 26, 2004 | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Christian, Its not necessarly done by volume, you measure it from the top of the tube. It will wind up being a bit less than a quart. It's measured with the spring out and the fork fully compressed. Minimum level is 3.15" (80mm) Standard Level is 4.25" (108mm) Max level is 4.92 " (125mm) Max level = less oil = less compression dampening. Standard works pretty well. Pour in 1/2 the oil first, then carefully pump the dampening rod up and down at least 10 times to get all the air bubbles out. Do it slow or you will spit oil everywhere. Then pour in the rest of the oil to the desired level. Tell your buddy the service manual is MANDITORY! Brad | ||
| Bomber |
Do it slow or you will spit oil everywhere. face, nose, eyes, across the garage onto the other vehicals, drillpress, ceiling . . . . .. . Brad's got it right? oh, and btw, there are no 24-hour scooter shops around for when you discover the last 2 onces of oil you need are now lubricating your bench . . .. . | ||
| Hardie42 |
THANKS for the fast reply - i have a S3-Fork and so i didn´t know about the M2... Have a nice weekend, Christian | ||
| Jbennett |
Anyone know where I can get a tool for the rear shock preload adjustment nut for my 97 Cyclone with the recall installed shock???? | ||
| Bluzm2 |
Jim, I went to Home Depot and picked up an smooth face offset pipe wrench. It's made by Rigid Less than $20 if I remember correctly. I works perfectly. Here's a shot of mine.  edited by bluzm2 on March 28, 2004 | ||
| Socoken |
Ive got an M2L, but didnt really want the Low part. ive got the M2 standard seat on my bike, but am wondering how to get more hight out of my rear shock. the above specs give the eye to eye length of the m2l as .4 of an inch longer than the m2. im looking at my shock thinking, "why cant i just turn that thing in?" i cant imagine my shock being a different part than the standard m2. anyone out there know if i can just adjust my m2l to an m2 by adjusting the preload? thanks in advance Ken | ||
| S_i_m_p_l_e |
Well all I got my suspenders back from Aftershocks last week, 600 bucks total for the rebuild, new goldvalves and seals. Not bad for the forks and shock. The ride is great, they did an excellent job and set the suspension up perfect for me solo. I can highly recommend them to anyone. Besides it cheaper to have them completely rebuilt than go buy a new shock for 800 bucks. | ||
| Davefl |
Socoken, If you just raise the rear of the bike you will change the geometry of the bike and it will affect handling. To make the bike like a standard M2 you will need a standard rear shock and standard front forks. I see both items on ebay from time to time. If you crank up the preload you will not notice much increase in ride hight but it will ride like a log truck. Good luck David 99 M2 Cyclone "High" 99 S3T Thunderbolt edited by davefl on March 31, 2004 | ||
| Aesquire |
Socoken, I don't think you can get that much adjustment, & you would not like it if you did. Think twitchy ditch diver. I have considered swapping my "L" bits for standard ones, but have to find someone close enough that wants to swap, and the weekend to do so. | ||
| Socoken |
The front forks are different too!!!! thats messed up, now im seriously unhappy with my dealer. he told me "lows" were all they were stocking in the area, and it would be really easy for me to make it a standard later if i wanted. guess i shoulda done my homework first. anyone within 500 miles of wisconsin want to make a low out of an m2?? thanks for the replies, i almost did it, its just so tempting with an inch of thread sticking out of the shock past the nut like that, and i only need to adjust less than half of that.....and the Low option was like 200 bucks extra, so it couldnt have been for forks too, or so i thought. are you guys really sure about all that? thanks Ken | ||
| Gusmyster |
Greetings all! A question or two... I have a 2001 S3. It has the newer shock on it. I'm a pretty big boy, approaching 300#. I have only had the bike since last Oct. I put around 15 to 20,000 miles per year on my other bike (full dresser), so I'm somewhat experienced. I have always thought my S3's suspension was too stiff. My harley shop said "thats the way they make them". It is also very high. I was sorta ok with that until they got in a used 2001 lightning with 2000 miles (same as mine) and I sat on it. Way different! Lots softer ride. I can sit flat footed on it also. Today at lunch I had the kid at the HD shop measure the eye to eye length on the lightning w/ me on it. It was 15 1/2" lg. My thunderbolt is 15 1/4" w/me on it. Will lengthening my shock lower the bike and make the ride softer? Should I adjust my compression and rebound? I think they are close to what is mentioned above, 2.5 and 1 turns out. thanx for the help. g u s | ||
| Valez |
I have a feeling that the front isolator is worn out on my 98' S1. There is a lot of vibrations in the front end of the bike. Is there anyway I can tell, without removing too many parts? | ||
| Lake_bueller |
Thomas....is the vibration constant or at a certain range? It could be number of things including: Cupped front tire Bad steering head bearings Bad wheel bearings I've not heard of anyone having trouble with the front isolator getting worn out. I have heard of them tearing. That is a very visible problem. I had some bad head shake a few years ago. It happened after getting the bike out of winter storage. It seems my front tire had some dry rot and was getting cupped. I'd start by checking the easy stuff (tires and bearings). | ||
| Lake_bueller |
Bomber....what method did you use for torquing the front isolator. I just installed mine on the S1W project on Friday. I went between the forks with the torque wrench for the bolt head and a closed end wrench on the top nut. It took some time to get there but I think I'm up to specs. I'm just wondering if there's a better method. | ||
| Valez |
Dennis, I just checked the front tire, and I believe you're right about the cupped thing. Perhaps I can solve this by ride the tire warm, and then inflate it to max pressure. But with the bike on the sidestand and while idling, the front end shakes like hell. | ||
| Bomber |
Mennis . . . I did the same thing you did . . .th esocket was not square on the fastener, but I think I'm OK . . .. I also used a crow's foot, just to check . . . .. PITA . . . . .. . | ||
| X1lightning |
I have 99 X1 w/6k mi. Shock started leaking & dealer 1st said a new shock is $295, then called back & said there's a recall and I'd get one free. Service manager then said no, & I'd have to buy a kit for $685. I called Buell and got the same answer. they wouldn't budge on replacing the shock. I was ticked after getting jerked around, so I ordered a WP from a Drag S. dealer. Anyone know about the new WP shocks? Am I jumping from the frying pan into the fire or are they Ok? | ||
| Hootowl |
The 99 X1 shock was NOT recalled, though as far as I can tell, it's the same shock that was on the S3's which WAS recalled. No idea what happened there. I've gone through two shocks so far, both leaked all their fluid out. The third is from a 2002 X1 and so far it is holding up well. You have to change the front mount if you make this swap. I have no data on aftermarket shocks, but the word on the street is that they require rebuilding too often for street use. | ||
| Blake |
The 99 X1 Shock was not recalled. It was replaced by under a free upgrade program. If your X1 still has the original shock, you should be able to get the upgrade. | ||
| Firemanjim |
Valez,that front end shake at idle is typical of a Buell.Not indicative of anything wrong. | ||
| Aesquire |
Valez, mine dances across the garage. If it's smooth over 3000 rpm, its fine. My buds Norton jiggles different stuff at different rpm's. (rubber mounted engines are odd that way. the mounts can't deal with the high amplitude/low frequency vibes of idle, not a problem ) edited by aesquire on April 07, 2004 | ||
| Hootowl |
Blake, That bulletin says that the kit is available for the 99 X1, but it doesn't say it's a free upgrade. Is it? If so, once again, I have been screwed by a dealer. | ||
| Nemo |
I just got a quote to replace isolators on my M2. The dealer, who will remain nameless, quoted me 6 hours at 70 bucks per. Service bulletin b-016b shows 1.0 hours. I think I will be picking my bike up and doing the work at home. | ||
| Steveford |
X1Lightning, You're going to love the Works Performance shock on your X1. No problems with mine and it's much more responsive to small bumps than the Showa is. | ||
| Cerbero |
i have a 97 m2 with an early showa shock (the one with the skinny rear mount)... it is, i believe, a recall from the original works performance shock... anyway, it started drooling oil a few weeks ago, so i contacted my dealership, hoping for a goodwill replacement... long story short; i don't qualify... so, now i'm in the market for a new rear shock... due to my limited budget, i've narrowed it down to showa or works performance... my question: these shocks had problems in the past, does anyone know if they still do? | ||
| X1lightning |
Hootowl, According to customer service at the dealer I talked to, and according to the Buell Company Customer Service, I'd have to buy the whole kit. I didn't even ask about installation costs. | ||
| Blake |
I dunno Hoot, but it would be worth checking into some consideration as it was a known troublesome component. |
