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Pontlee77
Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What makes the check engine light come on, and bike running fine(Stock ecm remapped with Micron maps, k&n air filter and micron full exhaust)?

The light stays on it doesent flash
bas? O2?

Thanks.

(Message edited by pontlee77 on December 12, 2013)
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Teeps
Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

O2 sensor will do that.
Have you checked for DTCs?

Also cracked solder joints on the ECM circuit board can cause it too.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are a couple dozen parameters that will trigger the CEL, you need to check what code it is spitting out to give you a clue as to what is wrong.
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Pontlee77
Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what are the DTCs?

There is no code at all, after 5-10 miles riding it comes on and stays on.
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Teeps
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My vote is for cracked solder joints on the PCB.
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General_ulysses
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe DTC stands for diagnostic trouble codes.
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Teeps
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

General_ulysses Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 -
I believe DTC stands for diagnostic trouble codes.


You would be correct.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pontlee,
Could be that your oxygen sensor is causing the problem and that would be DTC 13. It typically won't come on until the heat sensor in the rear head tells the ECM to start letting the O2 sensor run the show. That's what happened on my 06 and I eventually changed out that O2 sensor which entailed a 7/8ths crows foot wrench and moving the fan out of the way to get at the sensor. Hook up the ECMSpy to ascertain the code and then use the service number to see what the code deals with. No sense having us guess here when you need to do the ground work first.
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Mnrider
Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Short across pins 1 and 2 on the test connector located by the left seat rail then turn the key on and it should flash a code.
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Pontlee77
Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 06:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the ecm spy, and access to a couple of ecms i have at home so i'll see if any of the others are better, and don't show a code, thanks for all the options to sort this out.
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Pontlee77
Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

O2 was the error code, now a question: as i have the hear shroud, is going to be a bugger to get to the O2 sensor, can i turn it off via ECM SPY and leave it like that? (until the day i decide to change it)

Thanks.

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Teeps
Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pontlee77 Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 -
can i turn it off via ECM SPY and leave it like that?


Yes and yes.
Though the fuel economy may suffer some without the O2 sensor function.

My '06 Uly would do that periodically, too, it was cracked solder joints on the PCB connector terminals in the ECM.
That symptom stopped occurring after I fixed the PCB.
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Pontlee77
Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

my ecm is in fine condition and i have a couple of spare ones i can play with.

Thanks.
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Uly_man
Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The rear O2 sensor plugs into the sub loom that runs over the rear cylinder head. The wires can rub through and short to Earth of the cylinder head/frame and/or break. This can also happen to the other wires which are from the TPS, etc. This is a know design issue that was fixed on the latter bikes with a plastic loom guide. It is worth checking this first as it is free/ easy to do.

Next check the sensor is changing its output voltage. You can use ECM-SPY or other to do this. Or a volt meter. Best to be sure the sensor is at fault since it is a Bosch item and they last well.
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Teeps
Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pontlee77 Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 -
my
ecm is in fine condition and i have a couple of spare ones i can play with.

Externally maybe so.
The cracked solders I'm speaking of cannot be evaluated without opening the ECM.

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Pontlee77
Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm aware of that, on the next ride i'll know if the ecm is the one causing the problem, i can always change it out for one of the others, but before the ecm had the chance to have the seat resting on it, i made a piece to protect it, thanks for the help.
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Pontlee77
Posted on Monday, December 16, 2013 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

O2 off, no dash light any more, bike runs equal as before.
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