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Pontlee77
| Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 11:55 am: |
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What makes the check engine light come on, and bike running fine(Stock ecm remapped with Micron maps, k&n air filter and micron full exhaust)? The light stays on it doesent flash bas? O2? Thanks. (Message edited by pontlee77 on December 12, 2013) |
Teeps
| Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 12:11 pm: |
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O2 sensor will do that. Have you checked for DTCs? Also cracked solder joints on the ECM circuit board can cause it too. |
Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 01:38 pm: |
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There are a couple dozen parameters that will trigger the CEL, you need to check what code it is spitting out to give you a clue as to what is wrong. |
Pontlee77
| Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2013 - 11:18 pm: |
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what are the DTCs? There is no code at all, after 5-10 miles riding it comes on and stays on. |
Teeps
| Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 12:46 pm: |
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My vote is for cracked solder joints on the PCB. |
General_ulysses
| Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 01:34 pm: |
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I believe DTC stands for diagnostic trouble codes. |
Teeps
| Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 01:41 pm: |
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General_ulysses Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - I believe DTC stands for diagnostic trouble codes. You would be correct. |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 04:05 pm: |
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Pontlee, Could be that your oxygen sensor is causing the problem and that would be DTC 13. It typically won't come on until the heat sensor in the rear head tells the ECM to start letting the O2 sensor run the show. That's what happened on my 06 and I eventually changed out that O2 sensor which entailed a 7/8ths crows foot wrench and moving the fan out of the way to get at the sensor. Hook up the ECMSpy to ascertain the code and then use the service number to see what the code deals with. No sense having us guess here when you need to do the ground work first. |
Mnrider
| Posted on Friday, December 13, 2013 - 04:27 pm: |
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Short across pins 1 and 2 on the test connector located by the left seat rail then turn the key on and it should flash a code. |
Pontlee77
| Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 06:12 am: |
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I have the ecm spy, and access to a couple of ecms i have at home so i'll see if any of the others are better, and don't show a code, thanks for all the options to sort this out. |
Pontlee77
| Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 11:11 am: |
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O2 was the error code, now a question: as i have the hear shroud, is going to be a bugger to get to the O2 sensor, can i turn it off via ECM SPY and leave it like that? (until the day i decide to change it) Thanks. When ever any one of you come to Spain there will always be a really cold Beer or Hot Coffee or Tea waiting for you. |
Teeps
| Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 11:52 am: |
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Pontlee77 Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 - can i turn it off via ECM SPY and leave it like that? Yes and yes. Though the fuel economy may suffer some without the O2 sensor function. My '06 Uly would do that periodically, too, it was cracked solder joints on the PCB connector terminals in the ECM. That symptom stopped occurring after I fixed the PCB. |
Pontlee77
| Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 - 12:16 pm: |
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my ecm is in fine condition and i have a couple of spare ones i can play with. Thanks. |
Uly_man
| Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 09:15 am: |
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The rear O2 sensor plugs into the sub loom that runs over the rear cylinder head. The wires can rub through and short to Earth of the cylinder head/frame and/or break. This can also happen to the other wires which are from the TPS, etc. This is a know design issue that was fixed on the latter bikes with a plastic loom guide. It is worth checking this first as it is free/ easy to do. Next check the sensor is changing its output voltage. You can use ECM-SPY or other to do this. Or a volt meter. Best to be sure the sensor is at fault since it is a Bosch item and they last well. |
Teeps
| Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 11:13 am: |
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Pontlee77 Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 - my ecm is in fine condition and i have a couple of spare ones i can play with. Externally maybe so. The cracked solders I'm speaking of cannot be evaluated without opening the ECM. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/726411.html?1334338510} |
Pontlee77
| Posted on Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 12:27 pm: |
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I'm aware of that, on the next ride i'll know if the ecm is the one causing the problem, i can always change it out for one of the others, but before the ecm had the chance to have the seat resting on it, i made a piece to protect it, thanks for the help. |
Pontlee77
| Posted on Monday, December 16, 2013 - 01:50 pm: |
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O2 off, no dash light any more, bike runs equal as before. |
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