| Author | Message | ||
     Al_lighton |
One of the major seat vendors has approached me for input on "a limited run of Ulysses Adventure seats." So I told him I'd ask here and forward the input I received. I know how this goes, some will want taller, some will want shorter, some will want softer, some will want harder, etc. So be it, provide any input you might have and I'll make sure they see it. But besides the tech input, it'd be great if you also provide some marketing input, i.e., " I'd BUY one IF (fill in here)". I have a Corbin on my own Uly and I rather like it, but many that have tried the Corbin Uly seat haven't been partial to their solution. The two things that the Corbin does VERY well that I'll request from this new seat is a TIGHT seat/airbox/frame interface on the right side (a major source of heat discomfort for many), and absolute clearance to the ECM connectors. Al | ||
| Hughlysses |
The two things that the Corbin does VERY well that I'll request from this new seat is a TIGHT seat/airbox/frame interface on the right side (a major source of heat discomfort for many), and absolute clearance to the ECM connectors. Those 2 features alone might sell a lot of seats. I've often thought about getting a replacement seat or more likely getting one of mine re-worked (I have the stock 07 seat and a take-off tall seat I bought from Ft_bstrd). My original seat's starting to look a bit ratty after 7 years. I'd like a seat similar in contour to the 07-up seat but slightly softer, a textured cover would be nice, and I'd buy it if I could get it for $250. On a related note- have you ever noticed all the "pockets" and "cavities" molded into the bottom of these seats, that don't appear to correspond to anything actually installed underneath them? Also, the low seat seems to be very different from the tall seat in this regard. What's up with that? | ||
| Court |
Al: Whatever they make, if they do it with input from you and sell them through you . . . enter my order. I have several Uly seats the factory sent but I've never changed from the one that came on the bike. I'd be game. Court | ||
| Sagehawk |
I would buy a seat thats similar to 06 seat.. narrower in front, not as thick, and a flatter profile to keep me from scooting towards air box cover the whole ride. Even rox risers can't help me get situated enough to keep from scooting forward. Price would be a large factor as well. | ||
| Zane |
How about something not quite as tall for those of us who are inseam challenged? | ||
| Hdxbones |
I also have a Corbin seat that I find reasonably comfortable, and agree with the gap and ECM concerns. I would definitely be interested in a seat that addressed these items, and also have a little more 'friction' than my Corbin does. While I appreciate the bucket and the firmness, sometimes the leather is a little slippery for trail work.... | ||
| Lloydxt |
09 XT I purchased the 06 seat after a few months of the stock POS and love it. Im 5'9 and its a little tall when Im trying to back the bike out, but other than that I dont ever notice. Sometimes after a long day of riding I wish it was softer, but all in all a good platform. I would definitely buy one from you as well. | ||
| Airdale |
I would say +1 one tight fit on the r/h fame to seat fitment, Corbin bucket, A hard non flexible area when comes to the ECM & connectors on the seat pan, I would like to see a lower seat height by 1.5 inches compared to a 06 XB12X stock seat. I am 5' 11" w/ 28" inseam, A price range $200 to $275 I would consider reasonable. And a P.S. to Al,@ American Sport Bike Thanks for getting the front master cylinder clamp, Smoke the Uly is back on the road again. = Happy Customer (-: !!! Dave | ||
| 99cyclone |
I'm interested in one of these seats also. Important features for me: * I like the stock '06 seat height * A little narrower would be nice * No softer than stock, if anything slightly firmer. * Good quality cover, with some texture * Well defined rider and passenger areas, but not "dished" as much as a Corbin Gunfighter & Lady | ||
| Blake |
I'd by one if it diminished the perceived massiveness of Henrik's backside. Butt seriously,.. I actually like the OEM saddle. | ||
| Cyclonedon |
I would buy a new seat if it was like the stock OEM seat except all the material in the same color and type of material and the seams on the inside. I tried the low seat and ended up selling it. | ||
| Thumper1203 |
Well, hmmm.. I'm with Blake. I like the OEM late model std. seat, the fit is great with all day comfort for me. HOWEVER.. I do like the pillion section of the Corbin.. it's a bit "trimmer" has a bit more character with with a slight dish, an "up-swoop" at the rear edge, and different material panels. I think a hybrid with the option of a gel insert and a choice of materials, colors, etc would do well in the market.. Oh, and a molded-in relief around our ecms for cooling and clearance  | ||
| Ratbuell |
The only issue I've ever had with my '06 tall seat is wishing it was flatter. 6'4", 34" inseam, 36" arms...I routinely find myself sitting on the 'edge' between rider and passenger section. Something like an XB12STT solo seat would be ideal in my book - one continuous wide flat surface. Add in all the ECM reliefs/gap covers/etc underneath that you see fit to add...but I think a true solo style seat that could also be used 2-up would do very well. With the tail handles, no strap is needed... And I prefer the OEM non-leather, grippy skin. Add some sort of reinforcement/welt to the front corners so when the seat is off the bike, leaning against a wall or whatever, you don't get wear holes in the top/front points/corners. That said...I've had 30k very happy miles (including some 1,000+ mile days) on my OEM seat. Very little "needs" to be changed IMHO. | ||
| Firstbatch |
Al, In the mod I did to the stock '06 seat were: 1. to move the rise back a few inches for more room to move around and adjust position on long ride but still maintain the high peg to seat relationship which gives the great knee flex room 2. level the seat to stop the sliding forward and jammin up Mr Happy and 3. to round off the transition in the front "horn"" area so at a stoplight it was easier and more comfortable to balance the bike. I'm 6' 1" and 32" inseam and could not be happier with the results. Here was a thread where we talked about the mod http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/490912.html | ||
| Fotoguzzi |
I have stock low seat, find the padding rather hard but the dish about right. also have the tall seat that has more cushion but the cover is sticky and I can't move around on it, have thought of getting a new cover on it of better material. I'd buy if it was more attractive than the stock seats. | ||
| Skifastbadly |
I think you nailed my major concern, if something was done to eliminate, really eliminate, the seat/ECM interference problem, I'd be all over it. And while we're at it, something that plugged into the outlet to heat the seat...that could be interesting. What's encouraging is that someone's asking the question at all. It indicates that there are enough of these bikes still on the road to make them interesting to aftermarket manufacturers. What else might be around the corner? | ||
| Othrider |
I'd gladly replace my stock 09 if it was flatter with the rider seat longer and/or the pillon also flat, firmer would also be nice. Definitely ECM clearance. | ||
| Road_kill |
For my '08 Uly, I have the stock (short) and a tall seat. I'd buy another tall seat if it had the features Al mentioned and was slightly narrower. I like the stock Uly seats for firmness and material choice. Careful where the seams go, the tall Uly seat nailed it. | ||
| Etennuly |
I have the original tall seat on my '06 and like it. I have the '06 low seat that is now on my wife's Blast. It bent my knees too far and the gel seemed too hard after a couple hundred miles. I also find myself pushed back onto the transition to the pilon part. I slide back and forth a lot on 700+ mile days to stretch my legs and reposition my butt. I have ridden several larger passengers and none have used all of the available pilon seat, so moving a couple of inches back for the transition may help and is doubtful that it would hinder the passenger's ride. I have wondered about putting an adjustable air bladder similar to the 'Air Hawk' in side the seat cover. The only problem with the actual Air Hawk is it becoming cumbersome and clumsy when moving around to stretch while riding, and when getting off or on the bike. I usually ride a few hundred miles moving all about on the stock seat as needed, then I bring out the Air Hawk. But from the time I put the pad on, moving around is out. If I could stretch and move around while using the air pad, like I can without it, it would be a much improved long distance ride. | ||
| Teeps |
Stock '07 profile is good. (inch lower option would be ok) I would not be opposed to firmer padding for rider. Would like to have better fit/finish at the frame, air cleaner cover, seat junctions. Maybe a different cover material, one that breathes? | ||
| Uly_dude |
oh boy, I think I could write a book about the seat on my uly. Though I've kept the 06 tall seat in pristine condition on my shelf, I've totally redone the low seat by trying to narrow it and put gel inserts in the driver sitting area. Works ok for me now, but still could be better. Plus the passenger sits way too tall on these things. Were they going to recreate a whole new seat pan too Al? If that's the case, I'd BUY one if it was more narrow where the drivers legs touch the sides when standing. I'd also lower the passenger level more to the driver level. I know, there is the Uly tail to think of when it's folded down, but I say, "who cares?". My passenger doesn't. More of a work bench look would go a long ways also. I like the look of a dirt bike, seat. When I take the OEM seat off my bike, it actually looks pretty good! If they could just make a nice low seat to look like that I'd be all over it. Thanks for asking. | ||
| Rbuck53 |
Perfect seat? Has anyone noticed that a "Low" Ulysses seat comes in two versions? I have actually seen, sat on and owned both...and they are very different...and...yes, they are both considered "Low" seats. One is about 3/4" lower in the rear of the drivers seat than the other and also has more roundness to the front and frontal seating area whereby a drivers legs have an easier stretch to the ground. My first "low" seat was the more common of the two (the higher one), while my current "low" seat is the less common (the shorter example). Since I am vertically challenged I would like my Uly to have as low a seat as is possible using a high quality, high density foam. The drivers position ideally would be level to the ground and have a shallow canal sculpted in the center so as to remove pressure from the family jewels area. Also, for me, shorten the riders seating area up about 1" as I never use the rear most section of the drivers seat. The manufacturer can also install guards on the 4 lower edges of the seat that have a tendency to wear through mysteriously. Other than that, install a breathable heavy duty vinyl cover that will last for years of travel and weather. Thanks for listening. Buck | ||
| General_ulysses |
I'm tall (6'2") with a 34" inseam and long arms and I have to say that even I prefer the lower seat. The taller seat is more comfortable, but the awkwardness of the bike sitting that high makes it feel as if you're an elephant sitting on a tricycle. As if you're sitting on the bike as opposed to sitting in the bike on the lower seat. The lower seat gives you a greater sense of stability and control - a greater sense of all around security and lends itself to safer aggressive riding than on the tall seat. On the other hand, the short seat I have constantly scoots my butt towards the "gas tank" (air cleaner in reality). The padding is also lacklustre. I realize the padding has to be thin to achieve the shortness, but a higher quality stiffer foam should be used so that it doesn't bottom out. If it's possible to make the seat narrower, that would be good too. The seat is so wide, I can feel the insides of my legs rub against the seat pan while I'm sitting at stop lights. And again, sculpt the seat padding to not drive the rider towards the tank. Sculpt it so that the rider is naturally seated more rearward. Come up with a seat that does those things - and doesn't rub against the ECM of course - and I'm sold. | ||
| Zac4mac |
I have, I'm pretty sure, a stock low seat. Not sure which one, I suspect the "more common". I also have a seat worked over by Loren at Baldwin seats and I LOVE IT! My criteria? A seat with a pocket that by design is stable to the rear. I really hate sliding into the twins all the time. Notched at the front yoke for easier "flatfooting". I gotta say as I'm getting older - I've got heated grips, now I REALLY want a heated seat. That gel-pad is great in the Summer but an evil heatsink in the Fall/Winter/Spring up here. Z | ||
| Rbuck53 |
Wow...I just checked out the mod mentioned by "Firstbatch" a few posts back. Very enlightening indeed. It makes me want to remove the cover on my seat and start sanding away but I have no idea as to even where to start. Is the stock cover glued down? If so, is the removal process to just pull on the cover to release it from the foam? Once the cover is off, what product is used to do the sanding and shaping? Afterward, are special staples and a special stapler used to fix the cover back in place? How thick is the foam in the seating area of the "low" version and how much foam can be removed and still have some sort of cushion over the pan? Any help on this would give me more confidence to start experimenting. Thanks! Oh...almost forgot...Once the cover is off, is the foam glued to the base pan also? What is the best way to separate those two if it is? Thanks again! (Message edited by RBuck53 on November 21, 2013) |
