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Swordsman
| Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 02:02 pm: |
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So, with my new "Hercules" translucid airbox cover, you could barely see the filter inside my '07 inner airbox (Hercules is way darker than Kick Ash). So, I snatched the '07 inner box out and took a scroll saw to my old '06 air box. The filter shows up nicely now, but WOW does it sound different! At 3k rpms, there's this incredibly loud "BRRAAAAAAAAAP!" that kicks in. It's awesome! ~SM |
Boltrider
| Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 02:04 pm: |
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I concur. I cut up my box and it sounds like an angry Chewbacca! (Message edited by boltrider on June 08, 2009) |
Swordsman
| Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 02:10 pm: |
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LOL! "Angry Chewbacca"! That's hilarious! I had no idea the inner airbox blocked so much noise. I wonder if THAT'S the real reason for the inner airbox, because it would be a LOT simpler for Buell to just rig up a sealed outer cover if water was the only issue. ~SM |
Zatco81
| Posted on Monday, June 08, 2009 - 02:56 pm: |
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I did this last weekend and found that my exhaust is way too loud to hear any intake noise. |
Gunut75
| Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 09:48 am: |
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I have a chopped airbox, and a stock exhaust. I'll bet ya I'm the only one that hears Chewbacca when my bike goes by.I think the airbox is louder than my exhaust! I'll have the put-put problem cured soon! |
Miko_k
| Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 11:41 am: |
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I opened the front end of my airbox recently and it does sound nice, even with the stock exhaust, when I want to make noise, I just press the momentary switch above my starter button and the intake noise is more than matched by the exhaust(the interactive valve opens on demand) |
Elliott_m
| Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 08:23 am: |
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Could someone throw up some pics of your chopped airbox? Sounds like another possibility for my new baby... |
Zatco81
| Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 08:33 am: |
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http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=32777&post=1473432#POST1473432 |
Cowtown
| Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 01:58 pm: |
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Swordsman
| Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 04:09 pm: |
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Dude, that's not chopped, that's missing. ~SM |
Biff
| Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 04:21 pm: |
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I did mine the same way:
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Cowtown
| Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 04:33 pm: |
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Here it is covered:
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Elliott_m
| Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 04:39 pm: |
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What kind of negatives are there to removing that inner airbox? In the pics it looks like you guys just totally took that inner cover out. Any problems with rain or anything else gettin stuck in their? |
Biff
| Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 04:43 pm: |
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no problems to report here. |
Firebolt32
| Posted on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 06:30 pm: |
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Biff... What is that you used on the top there to hold the filter down? I bet it sounds tough. You think it could be heard over a race can? |
Wave
| Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 01:17 am: |
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This Fast air intake sounds nice and give good torgue.
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Zatco81
| Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 08:43 am: |
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Money doesn't grow on trees but apparently seats grow on bushes. (Message edited by zatco81 on June 11, 2009) |
Not_purple_s2
| Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 10:13 am: |
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Thats just an XB12S with "Real Bush" camouflage. |
Swordsman
| Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 11:23 am: |
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Elliott, with the airbox opened up, then engine has access to more air, or the engine isn't having to suck as hard to get it. Under most circumstances, the computer can compensate for this by enriching the fuel mixture. However, there is the possibility of running lean. Since I've done this to mine, I have developed a flat spot in my throttle response from a dead stop. Just as I start to take off, the engine wants to lug and hop a bit. I need to do some data logging to see exactly where I need to adjust my fuel map, and by how much. ~SM |
Biff
| Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 12:30 pm: |
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Firebolt32 The original top has been cut into it's current form. Neoprene washers and wingnuts keep the top locked down. I used the original holes in the bottom of the airbox (where the breather tubes used to be) and drilled two directly above. I used REALLY LONG bolts, which is what you see sticking out. I thought about trimming them down, but, the airbox clears them with plenty of room to spare. so, I left them as is. I have a newer lid (with the grill in the front). The sucking noise (or 'honk' as the SV boys like to call it) is more noticeable post open conversion. BUT, I don't hear it much over my drummer. I only hear it around 3,000-3,400 rpms.. if I am cruising in that range. All out acceleration through the gears, and I don't notice it at all (because the drummer trumps the honk!). |
Wavex
| Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 12:37 pm: |
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The good old airbox mod... enough said. |
Swordsman
| Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 12:53 pm: |
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Good article. Perhaps I should point out that I chopped my airbox STRICTLY for cosmetic reasons. I wasn't looking for any more power. Now, thanks to my vanity, I need to re-tune my bike. ~SM |
Miko_k
| Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 01:08 pm: |
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OK, looking at this last pic, it's easy to see that all the hot air from the rear head will travel up and under the airbox cover and get sucked in, when the bike is idling at a traffic light. The IAT sensor will pick up the temperature and lean out the mixture. Then you go to take off and you get a nice pop the first time you twist the throttle and sometimes a little pre-ignition until the wind cools down the airbox. Has any of you guys ever monitored your IAT before and after the chopped airbox? I bet you'er in for a surprise |
Hendro
| Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 02:19 pm: |
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This is a little off topic, but still related... Anyone know where to get a nice rubber grommet, or grommet strip that can be used after cutting the airbox cover to clean up the hole? I've looked at NAPA, Advance, Lowes and the like, but can't find what I'm looking for anywhere. Any ideas? |
Buellinachinashop
| Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 02:24 pm: |
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Check out my profile, I had the American cold air induction cover. Loud as hell. I absolutley love the sound of induction. The thump is cool. |
Zatco81
| Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 02:24 pm: |
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I was thinking of trying some black edge trim like the grey hairs put on their door edges. Not sure how well it bends though. |
Cowtown
| Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 02:44 pm: |
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Hendro, does this help?
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Swordsman
| Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 04:44 pm: |
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Miko, not sure why there would be a difference in temps when idling. Even with the inner box intact, it still has to pull air from the outermost box. ~SM (Message edited by Swordsman on June 11, 2009) |
Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 05:31 pm: |
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Even with the inner airbox intact, you still got a thin piece of plastic separating it from the engine heat. (Message edited by froggy on June 11, 2009) |
Hendro
| Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 06:31 pm: |
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I'm talking about trim for the holes cut in the outer airbox cover to allow "ram air" into the filter box. Just as shown in buellinachinashop's profile and what zatco is talking about.(can't tell if you have trim in there tho?) |
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