| Author | Message | ||
     Court |
Do whatever works best and just let me know the date. I'd love to attend. By the way, don't forget to get liability insurance policy for the event. You do know that being involved in the planning phase imputes personal liability to you and whomever participates. Heck, I may want to sue you  Lord help you, if you ever decide to take a motorcycle to Bonneville and plant someone else butt on it at 200MPH. . . . I'm still in for four posters. | ||
| Court |
>>>So I can tell Dennis just to go ahead & do the logo the way it was because Court says its ok?? By the way, if you DO want to do that go ahead. Even if they don't like it, I doubt they'll act. IT won't be the first time I did something that had them shaking their heads. Let me know if you decide to call and I'll give you the guys direct number and name. He's a close friend who I talk to on a fairly regular basis and I'll be he'd LOVE for you to provide him with the chance to sue me..... How'd you get involved in the poster deal anyway....wasn't Dennis doing that? Or ar you the self appointed legal counsel? Geesh | ||
| Mikej |
The BrewCityBRAG logo is a logo/patch for a Buell authorized club loosely affiliated with Buell. Much as the Kettle Moraine chapter of H.O.G. is affiliated with the mother ship. This poster is not affiliated with any BRAG club and is in the same vein as some t-shirts I hand-painted many years ago for a Stanley Kramer Film Festival at a local community college when Stanley Kramer moved to the Seattle area. The t-shirts were not affiliated to him directly and were only in reference to the event and were done on a voluntary basis and were not made in a profit making venture and were not offered to the general public for sale. I stopped painting after a dozen shirts anyway. These posters are not being considered as a fund raiser (totally discounting an email I recently received and ignored due to some questionable content/intent implied within it). They are apparently being offered on a shared-cost basis whereby the costs are being shared by the purchasers and nobody is making a profit or a wage off these posters except the printer and the post office. Do not confuse BRAG function issues with this poster issue. They are not the same. If I decide to repaint my Buell or a Harley and I decide to paint the respective company name on the bike I do not have to get company approval, even if I repaint the bike solely with the intent to sell it. Sometimes people do think too much. Sometimes people don't think enough. The hard part is determining which option is best for when and for what. This ends my Friday morning first cup of coffee distribe on this issue. Don't make me get out my paint brushes again. | ||
| Mikej |
Oh, and if you want to talk about liability, ask me in person sometime about California liability law, Killer Honeybees, and local beekeeper clubs. Or better yet, ask about Wisconsin law and local gun clubs and member liability. Law at times is like a cancer with tentacles and veins working their way into all sorts of crevaces and personal bank accounts. Yes Martha, they can take the pennies in the baby food jar that your grandma gave you. | ||
| Dynarider |
Court, where in the hell did you get the idea I was involved in the poster deal? I asked a simple question to keep everything above board & legal & that somehow puts me in the planning stage now??? And no Dennis is not involved in it either. Anyone wants to sue me, bring it on & get in line. I am not involved in the planning for this at all. Merely giving ideas & suggestions, take em or leave em the choice is strictly yours. And self appointed counsel? Hell no, Im just your average garden variety jail house lawyer. Mike, repainting a Buell emblem on an existing Buell is different from an unauthorized poster using a Trademarked name. You are not misrepresenting the bike at all by repainting it. However go ahead & through a Baker 6 speed trans in it & see what the official word is from Judy Henslee at Harley. Probably misspelled her last name wrong, hope I dont get sued for that.  | ||
| Court |
Sorry Dyna, I meant John K. >>>I am going to send a letter to Buell and ask about the legalities of this . No need. I reread my Jose' sounding negative post (knee jerk to 12 cooks in the kitchen) and have already sent the letter and a picture of the poster we intend to use. I'll get back to you. Sorry....my business is results, I sub-contract the processes | ||
| Bomber |
sheesh, Dyna . . . .. let someone else change diapers for a day or three, brother . .. . ya raised an interesting question, it was answered by someone who knows the possibly interested parties, and it sounds like we're all in good shape, here . . . .. . . let it go, brother, and go polish the super dyna . . . . . howzit shaping up, by the way? can't wait to see it | ||
| Bads1 |
Court just so you know we did not appoint any legal counsel and geesh your right were talking 300-400 posters not 1000s and then selling them to walmart Then you get Harleys hair to stand up on there necks. | ||
| Mikej |
Actually, there are plenty of Baker and Andrews geared H-D's being sold on E-Bay and elsewhere that are not being pursued by the mystical magical lady from the land of DeTox-U. She mainly goes after the "clones" and uses that line to state the formal definition. I don't think her line would hold up in a court should a case from her ever get that far. Otherwise you could sue a dealership for fraud under those same guidelines if they ever sell you a used bike titled as a Harley-Davidson if it has a different tranny in it. I really don't think she wants to open up that class action liability. I picture her more as the big dog chained to the tree in the yard behind the chainlink fence. More bark than bike, with enough knowledge to get umbrella companies (like E-Bay) to follow her lead and demands. I'm not sure exactly what Court was alluding to above when he said their plate was more than full this year, but I have some suspicions it might have something to do with something I caught wind of recently, and if so things may become very interesting, very very interesting indeed. | ||
| Chainsaw |
Reepicheep: I dig your idea! Anyone remember the movie poster for "The Truman Show" with Jim Carrey or a Playboy cover a couple of years ago with Marilyn Monroe? There is software that can take a random collage of pictures, like old Playboy covers, and arrange them in a fashion that, from a distance, look like something else. That would be friggin cool done with rider's Buells! http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungalow/3287/TheTrumanShow.html | ||
| Lake_Bueller |
For the record...I'm not on poster duty. I think we have a fine start to the process. I'm happy to let the volunteers work out the details. What I have done is solicit some worker bees to help defray the cost. I'll get those individuals in touch with John (M2me) to hash out the details. | ||
| Bomber |
Mennis . . .it's good you stated that up front, or Dyna would likely have sued ya (KIDDING!) Mikej . . .. . you TEASE! | ||
| Hootowl |
Chainsaw, Great idea! What would the whole thing look like? An XB9S? The culmination of 20 years work. That'd be cool. | ||
| M2me |
"I doubt you'll ever hear a word from them. They have plenty on their plate this year." This is exactly what I'm afraid of too. I have written the letter, but not sent it yet. Wasn't sure where and who to send it to. Buell Company, To Whom it May Concern? I would guess it would get filed away somewhere and never be seen again. Now, about those photos. Could Court or Dave Gess get a hold of me about these? My email address is in my profile. | ||
| Jim_Witt |
Greetings, And now you can see what it's so hard for Congress to accomplish anything important in a timely manner. L S'later, -JW:>  | ||
| Mikej |
M2Me, Post your letter here (dramatic pause if you dare. There are plenty here with a writing background of some extent who will chime in. For me, I'm about done for the day and will now take a lurker status on this project until such time as someone taps me on the shoulder. bye. High ho Silver, awaaaaaaaaay.  | ||
| Peter |
This?
PPiA | ||
| Cjmblast |
Mike, that poor horse ain't going no where too fast !!! CJM  | ||
| M2me |
Here is a mosiac I created with Centarsia a free download. This was created with the sample images that were included. There were 378 images included. This is the Lightning and Firebolt picture that is on the lower right side of the poster I created. I would need an easy way to gather up all the photos that would be included. These photos would not need to be high res, since they would be very small on the poster.  | ||
| Court |
>>>I have written the letter, but not sent it yet. I have a reputation of not sitting on my ass. My letter has been sent and the reponse received. Make the posters. Court | ||
| Lake_Bueller |
John...Very Cool!!!! Question...How would you put sponsor logos into that picture? Just a question. Have you & CJ been in touch? 2 hours and 45 minutes til vacation | ||
| Roc |
I think the mosiac idea is pretty cool, sounds like more work though. It would be kind of nice to get a prospective of history, not just the fuel frame bikes. I'm sure I'll buy one regardless. It is a great idea. | ||
| Spiderman |
Thats a great Idea, We can just put the sponsors name on there in black. We don't have to incorperate it into the mosaic. But we should do a RW750 or a combination of bikes. | ||
| Henrik |
How about a time-line of bikes, starting with the RW750 going forward?? Kinda like they do with the dinosaurs in museums Henrik | ||
| Bomber |
mennis, you match making on badweb now? | ||
| M2me |
I am at work right now or am supposed to be and don't have access to the other poster image. So I will have to explain my new idea. The mosiac image would be 100% and on top of it would be the other images just like the poster I did earlier. These large photos would be at 50% or maybe even less opacity. In other words, they would be see-through. Finally, on top of that would be the text. If there is a sponsor name or logo that wouldn't be a problem. That could just go on the same layer as the text. | ||
| Reepicheep |
That mosiac would look really cool if it were a very subtle representation of the new Buell logo... Especially now that Court has us "officially under the radar". Where do I send my Jpeg? Black, Blue, or White backdrop? | ||
| Court |
>>>>>very subtle representation of the new Buell logo. Better be damn subtle or your favorite Court will be in shackles, being flogged by Juris Doctors in leather and chains.... Hey...WAIT....I'd LOVE that ! | ||
| Cjmblast |
Court you do work fast, WOW !!! Bomber, bite your tongue !! CJM | ||
| Bomber |
so many opportunities (sigh) Hiya CJ! |
