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Chippy
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just stated an opinion. There's been a bunch of hoopla over the names lately. I understand it's not my house, but I would think Blake would welcome the exposure...
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Jb2
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That and I don't see any value in the facebook, or myspace, or twitter nonsense.

I remember when I thought the internet was nonsense and for losers and perverts. I used to tell my son it was the root of evil. When I got my first computer and hooked to internet to be involved in PACBOG and BadWeB he sent an e-mail saying that hell must have frozen over. : )

My how times have changed.

JB2
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Spiderman
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm sure he might have if he was asked first...
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use Facebook not only for keeping in touch with old school friends (with whom I'd LOST contact), but also people I used to work with (with whom I also lost touch, and was sorry for that).

I've reconnected with quite a few people I've missed, actually. Although I'm also on MySpace, there it seems most of my "friends" are actually celebrity fan sites. If you look at my "Friends List" on the two services I've actually MET 98% of the people on my Facebook list. I can't say the same for MySpace.

Also, Facebook seems to do a better job of treating it's users as adults. MySpace works too hard at protecting you from yourself and makes the network damned near unusable sometimes.

Another real benefit to these "Social Networks" at these times is to network with old co-workers if you're looking for a new job. I realize "LinkedIn" was created more for that purpose, but it can be just as easily done on MySpace or Facebook as well.

It's nice to mix with people who have interests OTHER than "Buell" or "Motorcycles" sometimes.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OK thanks. Overall sounds about as bad as I thought. :-)
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Swordsman
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I remember when I thought the internet was nonsense and for losers and perverts. I used to tell my son it was the root of evil. "

It is. Now leave us be!

~SM
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Jb2
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well stated Jaimec.

Swordsman, Hey dude I slipped off the slippery slope thanks to Ferris Bueller. I am here to stay! ; )

JB2
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Spike
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm a bit surprised at the reactions here.

What argument can you use against social networking website that doesn't apply to every other piece of technology that allows you to further connect with your local network of friends and loved ones?

Are you guys against the use of email as well? How about telephones? The postal service?

If you really feel that strongly about not utilizing technology to keep in touch with others, why not abandon all such technologies and only interact with people who are within shouting distance?
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Telegraph will be the END of the Postal Service and communication as we know it.
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Barker
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

FYI:

I changed the name only because it made more sense to me.

No one has asked me to do anything with the "group", so far.
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Babired
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spike, its like going from an old house with no air conditioning to a new air conditioned house. And if I don't keep up with technology man, I'll be cutting myself off when I turn 80, left behind by future generations
K
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Danger_dave
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>If you really feel that strongly about not utilizing technology to keep in touch with others,<<

Who said that?

It's the overall general banality of the messages and the interfaced method of communication that has me underwhelmed. Nothing to do with its widgets.

There also aren't *that* many people that I want to be connected to on a personal level.

I can just ring them.

(Message edited by danger_dave on May 18, 2009)
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have no kids, nor does it look like I ever will. My "immortality" will come through the people I've known and influenced (for good or ill).

(Message edited by Jaimec on May 18, 2009)
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Got it in a nutshell DD, that's exactly how I feel about it too.


I don't think I'd want to belong to a social network that has people like me in it anyway.
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Dynasport
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm planning to join FaceSpace. I just want to get the blinking 12:00 off my VCR first.
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Buellfighter
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Facebook has been a great avenue to connect with classmates from Singapore American School and are all over the world now! Have connected with probably 60 -70 classmates I wouldn't know otherwise. Facebook for Buellers is cool!
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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's been a bunch of hoopla over the names lately



just be glad he did not use Metal on his page (obscure joke )
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If I had somebody that couldn't be "connected with" outside of Facebook, is it REALLY worth connecting at all?
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, May 18, 2009 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...Although, I did hear that Houdini is twittering from the dead.
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Teddagreek
Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've used it for a few years, I'm not a friend collector most my peeps family and close friends...

What I really like is I can taylor who see different things and who doesn't
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 06:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>My how times have changed.

I have the videos and all the documentation from the Buell project I did at M.I.T. in 1997.

It was laughed at, called a waste of money and the results disposed of unceremoniously.

The entire idea of being able to "check dealer stock", "flipping through a .pdf parts manual and clicking a parts order on line". . . . the "build your own" function that allowed owners to view various iterations.

This stuff seems common place now . . . . it wasn't when we were working those 20 hour days in a Cambridge Technologies. . . . Buell, the first wheeled vehicle company to have www site . . . would have, once again, been 7 or 8 years ahead of their time.

The slings and arrows of politics doomed the program.

It angers some that I have an entire case of all the documentation and work product. Reminiscent of the "fuel in frame" that nearly had the patent expire before Erik had the means and could convince someone to allow him to build it.

It's been an interesting ride.

Great change is in the works.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 06:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Change is inevitable. Except from vending machines.
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Spike
Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

>>If you really feel that strongly about not utilizing technology to keep in touch with others,<<

Who said that?



It was implied in the "there's no use for that" and "it's pretentious" type comments.


quote:

It's the overall general banality of the messages



And what does that have to do with the method of delivering the messages?

Could one not make trivial phone calls?
Write trivial emails?
Make trivial forum posts?
Write trivial letters?
Write trivial newspaper articles?

The banality of the messages is due to the banality of the authors of the messages. Dismissing social networking due to the banality of the content would be a bit like dismissing MP3s due to the musical content.

The bottom line is that this is the next step in communication and connectivity, however "unnecessary" one finds it. I can use it to see pictures of my sister's vacation, watch a video of a friend's graduation, read about the build-up of a friend's track toy, see what books my father-in-law has been reading, etc. While I could have done all of these using previous technologies (telephones, email, etc.), only the social networking website consolidates and integrates all of these in to one package that is as accessible as the internet itself. In many ways these websites serve as highly "localized" (socially, not geographically) news feeds.

Of course, anyone is welcome not to use these websites, but to deem them as "useless" while retreating to a land of email, internet forums, blogs, newspapers, "smart" cell phones, and text messaging is at least ironic, if not flatly hypocritical.
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

'General' banality. Mostly what I have read so far on facebook and twitter was just fluff.

Lemonchillis music was tres cool. Other dribble encountered so far not so.

>>if not flatly hypocritical.<<
Lucky email and forums is all I do then.

But I see - I'm looking at it as entertainment rather than a communications tool.

To that end - personally I have better ways to c'mumicate - build my own custom sites and video. But not everyone has that luxury.
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Socoken
Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Easy Spike, no one is threatening to take your nintendo away.

I know a lot of people who waste a LOT of time on facebook or myspace instead of, oh say..... actually hanging out with their "friends."

There are exceptions to every rule, but to say that, on the whole, those sites are phenomenal self centered time wasters seems pretty accurate to me.
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Buellfighter
Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...unless your friends live in Holland, Spain, Germany, France, Hawaii, Canada, Singapore, China, Australia, Philippines, Argentina, and just about every state in the the union....works for me
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmmmm again - I have good friends in France UK Aus and the USA.

A 3-6 monthly phone call entirely covers us.
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Rainman
Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Uh, guys, you anti-facebookers sound very much like the newspaper publishers and editors about 10 years ago.

Look what happened to newspapers since then.
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Boney95
Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You all can see what my face looks like now, and I don;t always ride with a helmet...
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Danger_dave
Posted on Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is the advantage in getting the news from facebook eg - rather than my newspaper's web site?

I get to read comments about the items?
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