G oog le BadWeB | Login/out | Topics | Search | Custodians | Register | Edit Profile

Buell Forum » Quick Board Archives » Archive through April 21, 2009 » Buell 25 and Out ? » Archive through April 16, 2009 « Previous Next »

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Skinstains
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let me start off by saying that I don't

believe it. I have heard from two

different people however that Buell will

be out of business by this time next year.

I have also been told that Buell has

stopped production for at least 6 months.

(Message edited by skinstains on April 16, 2009)
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wouldn't put much stock in it.


I've had at least two people tell me that we never landed on the moon.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Dbird29
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WTF?
Did Bullgrrrrl get Skinstains logon?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Froggy
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 01:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was thinking the exact same thing Dbird!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Boney95
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 01:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If this were true, when would Buell MC be obligated to release this information?

I would be really disappointed if Buell ever had to close shop. But I don't think it will happen, then again look at GMC, Ford...
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Crusty
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 06:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've heard that exact same thing.
I heard it in the early '90s when I was looking at an RS 1200 (but couldn't afford to buy)
I heard it in '96 after I demo rode an S2-T, and fell in love. (but couldn't afford to buy)
I heard it in '98 after I bought my S3-T.
I heard it when Buell dropped the Tubers and came out with the XB platform in '03.
I also hear it every time Trollgrrrrrrrrrrrrlllll posts.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Court
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 06:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

175
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Smoke
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 06:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

175?
years,days, pages,investors?
cryptic
no worries, we can do a customer buyout!!

i'm in!
tim
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Crackhead
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 06:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hp of the new motor
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Mr_grumpy
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 06:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

175?

I thought it was 42.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 07:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They just produced a race winning motorcycle....
They are getting A LOT of exposure...

Now would be a good time to pull the plug....
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 07:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have been hearing that for the last 5 years, I will believe it when I see it...

rolleyes
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Gunut75
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

After the AMA wins, there are twice as many Buells on the show room floor to look at. And theres new ones there weekly! I think our corner of the world is going to be just fine.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Mikexlr650
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

200yr plan, 175 left. looks like were ok for now.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Elvis
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's amazing that these rumors persist even as Buell grows in a shrinking market.

What was Buell's best year ever? I'll give you a hint: 2008

In the fourth quarter of 2008, when the world was collapsing, Buell shipped the second largest number of bikes they ever have in any single quarter.

In 2007, Harley shipped 4,446,637 non-Buell bikes and in 2008 they shipped 4,278,241.

Buell, meanwhile, shipped 11,513 in 2007 and 13,119 in 2008.

Buell is the silver lining on Harley's gray cloud.

. . . oh, and the first quarter numbers are just out and Buell shipped MORE bikes in this dismal first quarter of 2009 (2441 vs 2392) than they did in the first quarter of (as I mentioned their best year) 2008.

And all that is before they started winning races.

Yeah, they're on the verge of collapse.

. . . oh, and by the way, that MV Augusta that was going to be the end of Buell shipped 685 bikes in the first quarter.

(Message edited by elvis on April 16, 2009)
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Court
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>200yr plan, 175 left. looks like were ok for now.

Precisely.

The next 175 years are PLANNED. Sure, some things will change but there is a PLAN in place and it's solid.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Seanp
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dude, you're two weeks late...
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Limitedx1
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if you believe we landed on the moon, i feel bad for you. I bet Oh no is the best president ever too!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Not_purple_s2
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hmmmm, I don't think a 2,600 increase in Buell sales quite makes up for 168,000 unit decrease in Harley sales. The only threat to Buell right now is that 168K decrease in HD sales. IF, thats a big IF but not impossible, IF HD fails what becomes of Buell? I would imagine Erik and other investors would buy back the company and try to keep it alive. But without HD's infrastructure and dealer network I imagine it would be tough to keep the brand as strong as it is now.

However, I don't think HD will collapse any time soon and it's great to see Buell sales increasing even in this economy.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Brumbear
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I heard a merger for MV augusta and buell is in order just some grapevine stuff though no hard statements and well it could happen so i'll let you chew on it for awhile
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Buellinachinashop
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

End of aircooled HD motors maybe, not Buell.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Court
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>The only threat to Buell right now is that 168K decrease in HD sales.

>>>IF HD fails what becomes of Buell? I would imagine Erik and other investors would buy back the company and try to keep it alive.

Let me repeat myself at the risk of being heard. . .

quote:

The next 175 years are PLANNED. Sure, some things will change but there is a PLAN in place and it's solid.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What did you say Court?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Davegess
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ah, Court is just fooling with you. There is no plan, Erik just got Buell to this point by pure dumb luck. ; ) : O
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kyrocket
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Now would be a good time to pull the plug....


Ain't that what they say, better to quit while you're ahead?

Let me repeat myself at the risk of being heard. . .

That could very well be the funniest thing I've heard all week. But it has been a slow week, though it's still funny.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't knock it. If it weren't for dumb luck, I would have none at all.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ebear
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Buellinachinashop
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Buell, meanwhile, shipped 11,513 in 2007 and 13,119 in 2008.

Buell is the silver lining on Harley's gray cloud."

I agree, but Buell sales dollars are barely one third of HD's sales in accessories alone. Buell isn't keeping HD afloat. It is a contributor though and I don't look at 123 million in sales (2008) as piss poor. My company sells about 1/3 of that and we jump for joy like money is falling out of our asses.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Steve_mackay
Posted on Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Boy, we should be asking for C.O.D. on some of the new tooling I'm currently designing for them...
« Previous Next »

Topics | Last Day | Tree View | Search | User List | Help/Instructions | Rules | Program Credits Administration