An Irish Prayer (Sent to me this morning by my Irish mother.)
May those who love us, love us; and those who don't love us, may God turn their hearts; and if He doesn't turn their hearts, may he turn their ankles so we'll know them by their limping.
Is our president Irish to O'bamma from the O'bamas of county burnt-cork On the religion thing I make no excuses for being born a protty but I am Scotish decent not Irish and the only thing I ever really new about the split was all my freinds were Celtic fans and I like the Rangers thats really as far as it ever went as most our parents and Grandparents were Scotish born.
Me? I'm grateful to the English & the Irish. The English kicked my ancestors out of Scotland & the Irish made them feel damn unwelcome in Ireland (maybe for cause, maybe not). By their actions I was born an American - God Bless You All. - I'm good for a pint. p.s.: I'll be the guy w/ the dark Green,"Black Watch", plaid scarf
Shall we march through "Black" Neighborhoods in sheets & throw fire bombs through apt. windows in celebration of some great Plantation owner's victory over the slaves in the past? Every year? For a century or so?
That's what wearing the orange on St. Patrick's day may evoke. The marches through catholic 'hoods by the Orangemen to terrorize & murder.
I don't know about English-roman. But Patrick was a slave raided from England, who, after a religious experience ( near death from exposure ) escaped, returned to England, then back to the land of his slavery to convert Ireland to a Christian land.
The Catholic/Protestant thing was another or England's "divide & Conquer" tactics, used a lot if you read history. The Catholics were native, the Protestants were imported to oppress them. Still do.
My riding gear is yellow & black. Since my name is Patrick, and I'm a Pagan, I don't wear green or orange on the day.
Shall we march through "Black" Neighborhoods in sheets & throw fire bombs through apt. windows in celebration of some great Plantation owner's victory over the slaves in the past? Every year? For a century or so?
WOW!!! my grandparents told me that their parents (both sides) were Irish...one day I was sharing that information with a fellow from Dublin....when he heard my last name he flew into a rage...saying my ancestors were "Bloody English" ...he got so excited over it he was flat scary. Since then...I don't bring it up much.
My grandpa could play a fiddle as good as anybody I ever heard...and when grandma got mad...you couldn't understand a word she said...It wasn't english she was speaking...lol...I sure miss them.
I was once told by an old Irishman that I was more Irish than the Irish. I think it has something to do my ancestors the Vikings running around Ireland during the 8th to the 11th centuries. Thats why I wear blue and yellow today.
I hate to break your protestant hearts, however, the old man is right. And the funnier part is that 9/10ths of the Scots can trace their lineage back to Ireland as well, especially The Bruce's family, however, they did become England's patriots, and where never forgiven that by their Irish brothers. This should be understandable to any American who knows their own history. EZ
If you all really want to know the truth about where the Irish, Scots, Welsh and English come from, they were nomadic tribes, the original Celts(pronounces with a hard C) that migrated north across what is the English channel from what is now close to Germany. They were than invaded by the Scandinavians and some stayed to spread that seed around. There were no native inhabitants of the British Isles or Ireland.
The Scots fought for and achieved their freedom in the early 14th century. They held until 1707 when the parliment leaders sold out for land and trading rights.
Old Man is partially right about the English importing Scots to Ulster. That group of Scots were Ex-nobles who lost lands and titles and were living in exile in England. The English royalty need some place to put them so they offered the ex-Scots land and titles in Ulster. Sould I go on about th Highland Clearings in Scotland and the Troubles in Ireland or should I just leave it at that? Granted that this just the short version.
If you must know, my mom was 75% Scots and 25% Irish, my dad was 100% German.