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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I mean, why NOT engage in speculation in another thread?
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/286506.html?1182364133
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Werewulf
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

buell is to announce a special operations division similar to harley... they will have a "screaming beagle" edition with the v-rod motor...this is the straight scoop!
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Everything I've heard has been the XB platform will be gone by 10. Aircooled will remain, but using a new frame. Personally, I'd like to see a tuber again.

I also heard rumors that the Blast may be discontinued, why? no clue. Maybe a liquid cooled small cc bike? I dunno.

We'll probably see a new bike or two using Rotax motors. I wouldn't be surprised to see something unveiled at the 25th Homecoming.

Speculating is fun.
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

An XB12M Cyclone. Carbureted engine, standard (not upside down) forks with a standard bike seating position. Cost around $8,000...

And Bold! New! Graphics! for the rest of the lineup.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NEW WHEEL COLORS!!!

Stand by for the all new darker black!
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Ceejay
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm hoping they are all 5'3" and very curvy, I'm tired of looking at the 6' tall ones built like a 2X4.

: )
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Cyclonemduece
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was at the dealer yesterday and they told me it sounds like they are going to cease production 2010 or 11......
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Ustorque
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stand by for the all new darker black!

how much blacker could you get? the answer is none, none blacker!
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Greenlantern
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well they have to try! Once you go black........
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Sarodude
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd question (mostly out of ignorance) how much longer the Blast can last with a carb. If it must be injected to move forward, I suppose there would be a few options:

* Stop making it
* Change as little as possible in the engine / bike while still bringing FI into the equation
* As long as you need to re-certify the bike, maybe this is the time for the XB style head, cams, etc or a displacement change (likely just a longer stroke)

Anyone have any ideas on what the implications of a carbed bike are in the coming years?

-Saro
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wonder how the new racing rules will guide homologation production.

Seems the new 600cc class is going to be the focus based upon the motorcycle mags and new racing management.

What would the V-Twin rules be for the smaller racer? 800cc?

Would mean a smaller Helicon variant wouldn't it?
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Stand by for the all new darker black!"

You mean Villan Black and Designer Black didn't cut it? This means I'll have to take a Sharpie to my silver wheels.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The new black will be called "BLACK HOLE BLACK"......
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Bcordb3
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have, from an unimpeachable source, there is be tuber introduced at home coming and this is the power plant. The industry will BUBble over with this set up.





(Message edited by BCordb3 on June 12, 2008)
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wouldn't be surprised to see something unveiled at the 25th Homecoming.

I enjoyed that added touch at last year's Homecoming. I hope they continue to do so because who better to let see new models but Buell's number one fans !!
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Miamiuly
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have, from an unimpeachable source, there is be tuber introduced at home coming and this is the power plant. The industry will BUBble over with this set up.

I think that the turn signals and mirrors will mess with the aeros and sleek looks though.






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Strato9r
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With freakin' gas prices going the way they are, a fuel injected Blast might not be a bad idea. Selling them to a North American market clearly divided between sportbike and cruiser could be the tough sell, especially in light of the fact that the Blast has this image of a beginners bike (and a damn fine one). Perhaps by using some of the tooling already in use on the XR1200; a tube frame, aluminum swingarm, conventional rear shocks, etc., a great handling, fine looking machine in more of the Standard/Brit tradition could be built, attracting the attention of buyers who want a machine that is neither sportbike or a traditional, heavy cruiser. I realize that in some respects, such a bike might be a bit of a step backwards, but Standards, and the ergonomics and practicality that goes with them, are a style of machine that can appeal to someone with no aspirations of being a famous knee dragger or leather clad badass. Fuel injection and XB style cylinder head design would go a long way in further improving power and economy, and coupled with a revised bore/stroke combination, (I'd like to see 3.625"/3.625"), the thing would have enough power to do anything the average rider would ever want to do, and look real sweet doing it. Think of it, wire wheels, in the deepest shade of Nonemore Black, come on, isn't there some guy at BMC that has a Velocette that he really likes?
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Birdy
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now that would be hot! A Blast/Cafe Racer. I'd have to buy one of those myself. Something about thumper cafe racers that get my blood going.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, this is the motor area of the new tuber frame

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/b-ville%20 meets/2006%20BUB-36.jpg

Gotta have V-Twins!
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Jon
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How about a new nekkid bike?
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Think of it, wire wheels, in the deepest shade of Nonemore Black, come on, isn't there some guy at BMC that has a Velocette that he really likes?


uh, that would be a certain E. Buell. But he sold the Velo some time ago. Like about 30 years ago.

I sold mine too. It was a Truxton 500. Definitely should have kept that one, that's for sure.



xxXx
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Clarkjw
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell already has the 450cc engines from the canceled dirtbike program. So, there will probably be a "Blast" type bike with the new engine.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

dont get me started on the cancelled dirty 450. I am still miffed about that whole evolution. : |
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heck, I rode a Blast to an event across town today and back. I forgot how damn fun those things are!! Although, at 6'4", I *was* sitting on the passenger seat... I'm even thinking about one now, strictly for commuting. Custom seat (back half only; more tank up front since I'm so tall), either mini-apes or clubmans, rearsets...could be a hoot.

I'd look for a stronger version of the Helicon (maybe). An EFI Blast would be cool too...but I wonder how they'd do it. Since you don't need a "manifold" to feed 2 different cylinders, I'd think a direct-injection setup would be awesome. And efficient. And "green". Hmmm....
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Prof_stack
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2008 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A 450cc Blast with EFI would get me back in the showroom.
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