G oog le BadWeB | Login/out | Topics | Search | Custodians | Register | Edit Profile

Buell Forum » Quick Board Archives » Archive through June 22, 2005 » Durable tires « Previous Next »

  Thread Last Poster Posts Pages Last Post
Archive through June 01, 2005Genes3t30 06-01-05  06:45 pm
         

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

M2nc
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay, I'm confused.

Some say the Metzlers, and it seems they have the most votes, but I've ridden with two other guys on Metzlers in the rain and they were skidding around me while I was planted with the Dunlops.

The Dunlops have limited lifespan but the guy that originally owned the M2 documented 11,000 miles on his first rear tire and 9,000 on his second. Not me, 5700 was the best I've ever done.

Others posted don't seem to exceed these figures so what is the answer? Does anyone know of a tire code like car tires that specifies grip, durability, wet weather traction, etc., so someone can make an educated guess?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kaese
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 01:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I never had any luck with any Dunlop product. My choice is the the Pirelli Corsas. Second set I have gotten over 10K miles on a XB.

I am a conservative rider, no wheelies, etc. I have noticed on warm days above 85 DegF that they tend to shred more rubber though. Tried the Diablos and they seemed much harder compound and didn't last as long.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 06:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ran through water deep enough to rip my feet off the pegs on an MeZ4 front and an MeZ6 rear with no problem (with the tires anyway, lots of problems with everything else).

The MeZ6 is the replacement for the MeZ4, and the marketing blurbs basically said the new version was the same wear and the same stick dry, and significantly better wet grip, so maybe they fixed what you are talking about.

The Scorpion Syncs feel even better in the wet, they feel very planted.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Mikej
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 08:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I put over 11,000 miles on the original Dunlops that came on the M2.

Like bikes in general, and life in general too I guess, how you ride is more important than what you ride. How one rides probably has more to do with tire life than the brand or model of tire in use. Some do wear better, some do stick better, but in the end the results will always vary from one owner to the next.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jeremyh
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

M2nc
did you consider rider weight and style.

and JEREMY_X1 the MAWONLINE place is right down the street from were i live, they seem to be nice people, also might be able to bicker on price a bit if you can prove lower prices on other online sites.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

M2nc
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know rider's style is a big part of a tire's lifespan. The Nighthawk is my commuter (cheaper longer lasting tires), so when the M2 is out, its either for a long distance trip or for heavy use.

Still, when you buy cars tires, you can buy sport tires or 80,000 mile tires. There is a code on car tires that tell you the tire wear, grip, water dispersion, most people do not know that it is there. Consumer Reports had a good article on the code, and what it means. I was just wondering if anyone knows of a similar code for motorcycle tires. A 20% more durable tire may only mean 1000 miles to me, and 2000 miles to you, but its still 20%.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cowboy
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think that all sport bikes run 17 in. or special 161/2 in. tires for a reason. they all handle well and dont wear worth a damn.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Thansesxb9rs
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jeremy_X1, I have the Conti - Road Attacks on my bike and they show little wear after 1800 miles. They handle great for a sport touring tire in all conditions. I am taking a 4000 mile trip on them next month and have no concern of changing them out. I have already deceided that I will get another set, and a friend of mine just got a set and loves them. For the price they are a great tire that you will enjoy for many miles. The Road Attack is a fairly new model and is a great tire.

Cowboy what are you talking about, they are a sport touring tire and have a deep tread. You must be talking about Dunlops.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Dale
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Michelin pilot roads are a good tire. But Mileage will depend on riding style.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rick_a
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love the Pirelli Skorpion Syncs. A co-worker I ride with is afraid to follow me into corners on cold tires. I've got a couple thousand miles on 'em and I'm sure there's many more left.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jeremy_02_x1
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How do you all typically ride? This is my first sport bike so I am usually accelerating very hard which is why my tire is going so fast. If you ride like me, what kind of mileage do you get out of a rear?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jeremyh
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the words mileage,hard acceleration, and sport bike will always equate to the same thing and that is start saving your money for more tires.

Personally if i put $7 in the gas tank then i try to put atleast $3 in a cash stash for things like tires.

Its a toy and toys always require more money so get used to pissing your money away on tires and start enjoying the rides.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Jeremy_02_x1
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hahaha. Too true, too true.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Bikerjim99
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you are going on a very long trip, and want to get there and back, try a set of Michelin 880 radial tires. Not to be used on track day, to be sure, but if you are droning on interstates for a very long time, a great tire. You can expect a good ride. Sure makes it easier when travelling to not have to change a tire halfway through the trip ( which I have done more than once ).
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ftd
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ditto what Rick A said about the Scorpion Syncs.
Grip good, last a long time, even look cool. What more do you want?

Frank
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cerbero
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i've got a 97 M2, running dunlop D208s... i mainly commute in the city (san francisco), but i've also taken some long trips (1600 miles was the longest so far)... under these conditions, my rear lasted just over 6000 miles... my front is still going strong (approx 7000 miles)
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Shotgun
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Love the Dunlop 208's for grip and feel. If I could get 3500 miles out of a rear I'd be surprized. But I change them when the wear-bar shows.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Daves
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2005 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good sticky tires that wear out fast are still cheaper than parts and hospital bills.
Ride on tires that are like bricks if you want.
I'll take the sticky tires.
A compromise is the Pilot Powers, dual compound, harder in the middle,soft on the shoulders.
I put a set on the Mille R and they seem great so far.
On the Buell I run Pilot Race, medium/soft, I ride it harder and like the grip of good tires. probably last me a track day or two and about 2500 miles of street/road riding.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2005 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All my tires thus far, from sport-touring to race compound, have lasted between 3000-4000 miles. Oddly enough, the sport touring was one of the worst for wear (Dunlop D220), and the race compound lasted longest (Pirelli Diablo Corsa).

Riding in the rain with the wear bars showing front and rear sucks.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

M2nc
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2005 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Road in the rain for two states with a stripe showing last weekend. Probably the loosest the bike has ever felt, but very controllable. Mind you, I did not venture onto the mountain roads until Virginia (Trying to save the middle of the tire you know ) .

Rick, you mention Pirelli Diablo Corsa, have you or anyone you know tried the Stradas?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cowboy
Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2005 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My experence has been the same as Rick. How ever scence I quit pulling wrenches for my raceing team I dont have ackcess to the raceing tire any more. I think with less slipage you realy cut down on the wear.( cant help myself I have a quick wrist)
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never tried the Stradas. Sport touring compounds are fun as hell when you ride aggressively. Sliding around on the throttle always puts a big silly grin on my face. Sticky compounds still slide, but generally only when you're dragging boots and pegs on the ground.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Bikemakr
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just put Metzeler Z6s front and rear on the Cyclone- got caught in a huge storm- they stuck like glue. Did 200mi on them Saturday going to Americade and they did a great job in the heat as well!
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Josh_
Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Z6 review
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Oz666
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mounted a set of Pirelli Diablo Stradas ~ two weeks ago. Went Land of Oz -> Fontana N.C. (& RT 129 + MANY other roads) -> Michigan City -> East Troy -> West Bend -> Elkhart Lake -> West Bend -> Land of Oz. Like `em better than the D220's, mileage unknown - due to broken speedo cable (Dragon broke my rear isolators, too) but not too much visible wear, I'll keep `ya posted...




Oz
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Bigj
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BT 020's are inexpensive, last long, and are reasonably well handling. By far, best bang for the buck.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Mfell2112
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with Bigj. The Stones last a long time and the grip way better then the stock dunlops.

Regards

Mike
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Tramp
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the stones have lasted for a good 43 years and they'll go longer if keith richards keeps up with his weekly blood replacements
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Rek
Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FYI,
The tires that started this thread, Maxxis supermax, have about 1800 miles on them and are easily 1/2 gone. Might get one more trip...they are going to get one more trip, but after that they're finished. From my POV I'm willing to sacrifice a little stickiness for durability just because I put so dang many miles on. And for what it's worth I just ordered a new set of Metzlers.

Rob
« Previous Next »

Add Your Message Here
Post:
Bold text Italics Underline Create a hyperlink Insert a clipart image

Username: Posting Information:
This is a private posting area. Only registered users and custodians may post messages here.
Password:
Options: Post as "Anonymous" (Valid reason required. Abusers will be exposed. If unsure, ask.)
Enable HTML code in message
Automatically activate URLs in message
Action:

Topics | Last Day | Tree View | Search | User List | Help/Instructions | Rules | Program Credits Administration