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Jcs64
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My '00 X1 is getting its winter maintenance right now.
Re gasketing and lifters are on the list so the question is, Which lifters and where to get them?

thanks, jeff
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Harleyelf
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

19526-89A Sportster lifters from the dealer. Soak them in oil overnight before installing to prevent initial start-up clatter.
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Jcs64
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the quick reply, since Im not a fan of the dealerships Ill check out that part # through different vendors

and why does the manual say that in 2000 the engines are thunderstorm and use a new style lifters?
That's not for my X1 correct?


jeff
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Harleyelf
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I may be wrong. My S3 is a '99. I just looked the part number up on Bing search and it comes back as -98. New lifters are the same as twin cam Harleys.

Thunderstorm refers to the heads, not sure if that changes the lifters.
'99 S3 lifter


Does it look like this?
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Jcs64
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know, I havnt gotten them out just yet (still wrapping up the shovelhead maintenance)


jeff
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Harleyelf
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Before you go pulling the cam cover off, try removing the rocker covers, rocker arms, pushrods, lifter blocks, and pushrod tubes.

Then see if a magnet will lift them up. Doesn't always work but if it does, can save you a gasket and much of the job's clean-up. 18538-99C shows in the new part chart as the lifter for 2000-up.

Keep track of which pushrod goes where.

(Message edited by harleyelf on March 14, 2014)
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Splatter
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That lifter is for a 91-99 model. The lifters changed starting in 2000 to the new smaller diameter lifters like the Twin Cams use.

They've been through 3 versions of the Twin Cam lifters rev A B and C. B's are the best and C's are giving people lots of problems. If you go buy new lifters you'll get C's.

Do yourself a huge favor and get some Gaterman GP1023's. Best lifter you can buy and they're priced well hardly any more than the stockers. I dont know if any sponsors carry them or not but try them first. If not there easy to find with Google. Search "Gaterman GP1023 Lifters" and look toward the bottom of the first page for an online source.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What went wrong with your original lifters?

Are they making more noise than you think they should?
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Harleyelf
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They might just need a good soaking and rubdown. Only if they are locked up or loose after that should they need replacement.

I got 130,000 miles out of a set on my last Sportster.
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Jcs64
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"whats wrong w/ the originals?"

nothing I don't think, but maybe, lol

I had one let go in my other bike and it tore things up pretty good. Ever since, ive been paranoid. Im kinda figuring for the cost of them it would be a pc of mind.

plus I need to regasket so now's the time.
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Phlegm
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I used a little marvel mystery oil and it seemed to free them up.
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Mcelhaney14
Posted on Friday, March 14, 2014 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Really do your research on these. I started to look for a set and found the same thing on the rev C. They are crap. You will probably have to invest some good time and money into a good set of lifters. How many miles are on your originals?
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Jcs64
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Really do your research on these."


Im trying, LOL


So far only one other suggestion from oem and that was the gaterman 1023. well, come to find out they are made in china. Not sure if that's a deal breaker yet?
the 1023 are the performance ones but there stock replacements (cant think of the #) are made in the US, weird.

any thoughts on the fueling, S&S or others?

BTW 37K miles on my stockers.


jeff
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Jcs64
Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2014 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

can you physicaly tell the rev B's from rev C's?

wondering if these are in fact B's

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251475566228?item=25147556 6228&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123&v xp=mtr
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Jcs64
Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what are the opinions on Feulings brand lifters?


jeff
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Catfish_ssffss
Posted on Friday, March 20, 2015 - 02:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm debating Gatermans or Fueling myself.
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