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Bikerjim99
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I just had my first real problem with my 99 S3. Took it for a ride tonight, and about a mile from home the bike quit. The 20 amp ignition fuse was blown, so I replaced it. That lasted for most of the way home, and blew again. I replaced it with a spare 15 amp fuse. Made it almost to my drive when it blew. I also noticed that my front brake light works intermittently.

No new installations or work on the bike lately.

When I have time, I will have to tear into it. Anyone else have a similar problem? Any ideas?
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Kyrocket
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like a chaffed wire grounding out somewhere. I hope you have lots of hair 'cause this could turn into a hair puller. Keep us updated.
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Texastechx1
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

found this on X1 files (very similar bike when it comes to the electronics)

"Problem with speedo sensor... it shorted out and would blow the 20 Amp Ignition Fuse when you would turn the key switch on.... did this 4 times. As soon as you would turn the switch on it would blow the fuse... had lights but no start circuit or power to the ECM. When you power up this puts 12volts to the speed sensor (and a lot of other things) and it was shorted to ground, thus taking out the fuse.

Blowing 20A ignition fuses at various and frequent times. Turned out to be a bad Ignition Relay.

Would blow the ignition fuse with a passenger on it. It turns out the wiring harness, as it comes out of the ECM and down the left frame tube, was routed under the rear Heim joint, which would pinch the bundle on top of the swing arm mount with the additional weight of a passenger. This wore the insulation off of one wire which would only short out with any additional weight. To fix the problem the dealer rerouted the wiring bundle on top of the Heim joint. The rear brake line had to be disconnected to do this, and rerouted under the wiring. I also pulled the bundle up higher, at the bend, and zip-tied it to the battery tray.

Blowing 20A ignition fuses... found the wire loom under the steering head rubbing on the mounting boss in front of steering neck. It is nice and square (sharp) and has cut some wires open, leaving them exposed so when I turn they must go to ground.





http://www.saintjohn.nbcc.nb.ca/marriott/x1/#Elect rical
Left side of the page... almost at the end of the electrical section.


hope this helps : D
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Whitex102
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a similar problem of blowing the 20amp fuse on my X1. One of the wires running to the fuel injectors had chaffed and grounded on the top link mount on the frame.
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Bikerjim99
Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you everyone for your ideas. As soon as possible I will look where you recommended to find the problem.

Jim
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on the speedo sensor, same thing happened to me.
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Bikerjim99
Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I tried to find the problem today. Took off all body work, inspected all visible wiring. Nothing looked like it was rubbing on the wiring, all wires looked good. I removed some wire ties, and inspected the connections. I did find some corrosion on the connector of the right handlebar switch. I cleaned it with electrical cleaner and a brush, then applied dielectric grease. That was the only thing I could find. It sure didn't look bad enough to blow fuses, but I can't say for sure.

I checked all of your recommended areas, and all looked OK to me.

I then put the fuel tank back on, and started the bike. Gave all wiring the "wiggle" test, no problems found.

Put the bike back together, and carrying about 25 20amp fuses, took a ride. Perfect.

I rode for about 50 miles with no problem.

Boy, I hate this kind of problem. I am not sure now that I can trust the bike. I guess I will have to for now. I can't fix what isn't broken. Until it fails completely, I'll ride.

Thanks again for all the help.

Jim
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