| Author | Message | ||
     Zachhill |
Hi i am considering buying a 2007 xb12r but i want to know some things. what is the redline what is the top speed what is the 0-60 how fast can i pop a wheelie? I am a suzuki guy but I am considering crossing over. I sort of had my heart set on a gsxr 1000 but they do not do deals on imports on post. I cannot find this information anywhere and I am fairly leary of a twin and a belt. If I get one I do plan on getting the racing intake and the ecm | ||
| Bigdog_tim |
Hi Zachhill, I have an '04 12xR, a '00 M2 and an '02 GSXR 750. They are TOTALLY different experiences. The torque of the V-Twin is amazing - and is its own thing. The top end of the V-4 is amazing - and is also its own thing. If pulling wheelies is your main thing - there are more aftermarket things to make a jap bike more compliable. For the X12 - I can easily pull the front wheel up (100% stock) between 30 and 40. On the M2 - between 25-and 35. On the GSXR - I can do first and second gear wheelies from 40-70. Note these are not 12' wheelies - just getting some air under the tires (am not a stunter). Hope this helps. The fact you are interested in a twin says you should spend a little more time on a twin. Generally, they won't have the top end - but they make it up in torque. | ||
| Zachhill |
right on man | ||
| Petebueller |
Hi Zachhill, A Buell is a bit different, and you are right to ask the questions before buying. I don't think that you would find another 100 HP bike that gets you off the mark as quickly. The torque is full on from 2700. The red-line top end for the 1200s is only about 220km (140 mph). I haven't pushed it to the limit but I'm sure it would get there. Without mods the bike rides easily at 100 km (60 mph) but gets more of a vibe above this. You're probably running about 120km (80 mph) before it shakes this off. The handling is different and not what new Buellers expect. The setup is important. When you get it it should be set up for you. Keep hassling if the dealer doesn't do it right. The suspension settings can give you everything from a WLA to a pogo stick. Tyre pressure is maybe more important. If the rear tyre pressure is down the bike will float, run wide and stand up in low speed corners. When it is set up right you will not find a better ride. Put a bit of weight on the side and the bike will gently follow you down. Think about the next corner and you are though it. You have 3 direction changes for straight through on a round-about - love it - I cannot imagine another street legal bike that makes it so easy. When I corner I find that I lean over a bit more than I expect, but maybe I am going a little bit faster than I expect. Anyway there is heaps of clearance. If you scrape the pegs I am sure you can find a medal for it somewhere. There is probably a straight jacket or a guide dog to go with it. Slow corners I think take some getting used to. Even without the flat rear tyre the bike wants to steer into the corner for you. It doesn't lean into the corners the way you expect. If this is excessive then the setup is wrong, but a little bit will always be there. I have heard some speculation that it is due to the big difference in the widths of the from and rear tyres combined with the short wheel base. Three things happen 1) you get used to it. Standing up a bit in low speed corners is actually quite useful. Use the rear brake and not the front while steering. 2) You corner a bit faster - happens to us all. A little bit faster and the bike leans more conventionally. 3) If you go in a bit slow you find you steer out of the corner and put the throttle on. It becomes natural. I have ridden a Lightning long and I own a Firebolt. Of the two I prefer the handling on the Firebolt. I like having more weight on the front. I also find the seating on the Firebolt totally comfortable. The bike is short but tall. I fitted the riders pegs which drop 1" from standard peg height. These are not essential, but I find I get the weight planted a bit lower and I find the handling a bit better. Has anyone told you about warm legs? Great in winter. You'll never have cold knees again thanks to the way the frame heats up from the back cylinder. Tends to scorch a bit in thin trousers - forget the shorts. Your right thigh will actually give you an indication of when the rear cylinder cooling fan is going to cut in. The riders pegs put the thighs more in contact with the frame so you feel the heat more. Unless you're a total road animal the power isn't an issue. Its the handling and the quirks that will decide whether or not it is the right bike for you. If you can hire one for a weekend I would recommend it. (Word of warning on the hire bike - the front brake need machining every 20,000 miles otherwise it tend to be progressive until it bites. Hope this helps Pete |
