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Spacecapsule1
Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

....why would it throw a code for the fuel pump for no reason? dealer says they ran diagnostics and its okay, but i'm not convinced as they've had my bike for just under 2 months now..... any ideas?

It took a weekend of riding to throw the code. I'm TIRED of having to bring the bike back to the dealer and don't want to pick it up only to have it throw the same code again a couple days later.
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Codes stay in memory for 50 ignition cycles if they are not manually cleared - so it is possible that the code was tripped inadvertantly and is simply stored.

Given that even the most incompetent dealer should never be messing around with a fuel pump with the battery connected, however, I'd say the odds of that are pretty slim.

Intermittent short could produce the code and then be gone when they checked it later. Do you know, specifically, what the code is? It largely seemed to be a Uly problem, but I know people have had issues with the pump wires chafing inside the tank - which unfortunately would require the removal of said pump to verify/fix.
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Spacecapsule1
Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it was actually 2 codes, one for the interactive exhaust an the other for the fuel pump: 21 and 33.
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You mentioned it took a weekend of riding to trip the code - did the bike do something that made you take it back in and the code was discovered then?

What was the bike in for before? Anything that would require the airbox to be removed?

It's possible that they didn't disconnect the battery before disconnecting the actuator or fuel pump, and tripped the codes that way.

2008s, at least, have a method to verify that the actuator is working correctly. You could do that a few times to see that it is working properly, and obviously you can hear the pump priming when you flick to run.

My suggestion is, have the codes cleared, ride the crap out of it for a couple days, and then check the codes yourself (jump the wires) to see if it's returned.
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Spacecapsule1
Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I took the bike in for rocker box leaks and turn signals not working. Went to pick it up, throttle cables routed wrong, finish on the frame had white haze all over it, wire harness patch job was not acceptable on a 3 month old bike. Left it for them to fix.
Went back, frame halfway cleaned, throttle cables still wrong, primary cover and left footpeg bracket damaged during engine rotation.

Took it home to inspect, codes thrown during that weekend. Made them pick the bike up this time(45min trip one way), 3.5 weeks later they say its ready....
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Darthane
Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, they certainly had opportunity to throw the codes themselves, and if they were into the wiring harness they oculd have $@#%@$# something up then. Rotating the engine requires the removal of the entire airbox, so the actuator was unplugged for that. They may have put it all back together without plugging it in and then realized their mistake, but not cleared the resulting code.

Given the level of competence your note indicates, I suggest finding a new dealer, or better yet, get a service manual and bond with the bike in the garage. >.<
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Spacecapsule1
Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

they told me they replaced the actuator. so we'll see what happens. i hope i dont have to go back.... unfortunately they are the only nearby dealer. I will do my own work but since its under warranty i thought i 'd let the dealer do it. big mistake. I imagine the bike will be nothing but trouble from now on. it's a shame.... i bought it in march.... now its a patched up mess..
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Metalstorm
Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

or better yet, get a service manual and bond with the bike in the garage

Holy crap! you nailed that dead on!

My Buell is the first bike I've owned that I've actually done my own work on and it is truly a feeling of intimacy.

I am bonded with my bike like no other
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Mr2shim
Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Spacecapsule. If you'd be up for the extra few miles, you can go down to Thunder Tower HD. The difference in service is amazing. I live about middle ways between the two. After my service bulletin I'm switching to them for my needs, and it's less traffic.

(Message edited by mr2shim on August 08, 2008)
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Spacecapsule1
Posted on Friday, August 08, 2008 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm all for it. Thanks for the heads up.

Bonding with your bike is as well and good fella's, but when it's 3 months old with front and rear rocker box leaks and turn signals that don't work, it's back to the dealer. How many of you feel like tearing into your wiring harness 3 months after you bought a brand new bike? or rotating the engine with the proper tools you don't have? i didn't think so....
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